|  08-05-2020, 07:43 AM | #1 | |
| Professor of Law            Posts: 3,755 Karma: 68428716 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Device: Kobo Elipsa, Kobo Libra H20, Kobo Aura One, KoboMini | 
				
				Hugo 2020 Award Winners
			 
			
			The Hugos were held this weekend and I'd not seen anyone post about it yet.  By all accounts, the ceremony was...not good, but the acceptance speeches were.  You can find all the nominees and winners here.  Here are the big three categories: Quote: 
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|  08-06-2020, 02:25 PM | #2 | |
| Fanatic            Posts: 548 Karma: 13511506 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cleveland, OH Device: Voyage, Oasis, Kobo Glo HD,iPad Pro, Sony 350 and T2 | Quote: 
 Anywho, I can vouch that the best novel and novella are both good reads. | |
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|  08-06-2020, 02:43 PM | #3 | |
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | Quote: 
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|  08-06-2020, 02:48 PM | #4 | 
| Professor of Law            Posts: 3,755 Karma: 68428716 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Device: Kobo Elipsa, Kobo Libra H20, Kobo Aura One, KoboMini | |
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|  08-06-2020, 03:18 PM | #5 | |
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | Quote: 
 In my opinion, the books the Puppies were promoting would have dragged down the quality. I just mean that the flurry of news about the Hugos and the Puppies groups made people pay less attention. | |
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|  08-06-2020, 04:20 PM | #6 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,874 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova | 
			
			Read the amazon reviews of the first three. Sound dreadful. Politically correct and dull. One described as lesbians in space. All by women, one called Tamsyn. There I said it. *prepares to be flamed*. Sci-fi has lost its way.
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|  08-06-2020, 04:50 PM | #7 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			SciFi is alive and well. Homophobes and misogynists probably aren't catered to as much as they want to be these days, but other than that: scifi is still scifi. It hasn't "lost" anything that didn't need losing.
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|  08-06-2020, 04:51 PM | #8 | |
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,514 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | Quote: 
 And because someone’s name rubs you the wrong way? And now I’ll say it. Discussion is fine, but deliberately posting something bigoted just to start a flame war is treading on thin ice. Keep it up, and you’ll be sanctioned. | |
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|  08-06-2020, 05:01 PM | #9 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | 
			
			I think the Hugos started losing relevance well before the Puppies came around.  I have to go back to 2013 before I find a winning novel that I read (well, actually listened to as an audiobook in that particular case).  I tried to read the winner in 2005, but only got a couple of chapters in before giving up.  Then I go all the way back to 2001.  So 2 books in 20 years.  Yea, not very relevant with regard to the sort of SF&F that I read.  Kind of sad how many of those authors I can't really recall hearing of.  If relevance means authors that people buy the book and read, well then, not so much.
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|  08-06-2020, 05:30 PM | #10 | 
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			None of the books in the Hugo list are all that big. There were times before the puppies where there were some well known books. This year that's not happened.
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|  08-06-2020, 06:34 PM | #11 | 
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			Here is the COMPLETE list. Spoiler: 
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|  08-06-2020, 08:17 PM | #12 | ||
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | Quote: 
 I'm not sure why you are throwing politically correct into the mix. A Memory Called Empire sounds like your typical Hugo winner and I'd wager if you didn't know Arkady is a woman, you wouldn't have a gripe about it. And you say 'lesbians in space' like it's a bad thing  Quote: 
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|  08-06-2020, 10:47 PM | #13 | |
| Literacy = Understanding            Posts: 4,833 Karma: 59674358 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The World of Books Device: Nook, Nook Tablet | Quote: 
 I haven't found the Hugos worthwhile in at least 30 years. For me, it has been a very long time since I found a novel that won a Hugo worth raving about. Some have been good -- not great, just good -- reads, but most have been so-so or terrible. | |
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|  08-06-2020, 10:50 PM | #14 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			I picked up Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir recently on special, but haven't read it yet, will probably wait until the trilogy is all published.  I must admit that when I saw that description "lesbians in space" in the blurb I was a bit disconcerted because it seemed to suggest this might be erotica (nothing against erotica, just not high on my list).  Anyway, then I saw this was a comment by Charles Stross (I'm not a fan) and read on.  Other reviews made it sound like I might enjoy it.
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|  08-07-2020, 04:27 AM | #15 | 
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,432 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | 
			
			I'm mostly reading my backlog TBR, not newly published works, so it's not surprising I haven't read many on the lists. I have read This is How You Lose The Time War. It was excellent. | 
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