|  07-21-2020, 09:54 AM | #1 | 
| Enthusiast  Posts: 42 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Sony PRS-650; PW2 | 
				
				Paperwhite 2nd generation to 4th generation?
			 
			
			Hey, folks.   Been away from reading and, so the kindle as well, for quite a while. Simple question, then: I have a 2nd generation Paperwhite that is working just fine, but I'm wondering if an upgrade to the 4th generation would be worth it? In particular, curious if the improvement in the screen would be noticable. Thanks! | 
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|  07-21-2020, 01:56 PM | #2 | 
| Addict            Posts: 210 Karma: 4491791 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: South Africa Device: Kindle PW4 | 
			
			Well I am new but since nobody has replied will mention 2 things that I am sure of. 4th gen more fonts and water proof 2 meter fresh water for 60 min. Oh and screen sits flush now, so that's 3 things, hope that helps.   | 
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|  07-21-2020, 02:21 PM | #3 | 
| hopeless n00b            Posts: 5,126 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9 | 
			
			It’s 300 ppi PW4 display versus 212 ppi on PW2. That tends to be more noticeable on small font sizes or images, though. The flush bezel means there’s a small gap between the the e-ink display and the front so contrast seems just a wee bit lower compared to the PW3. My PW3 appears to have better contrast than my PW2, though, so the samples I have of the PW2 and PW4 appear to be on par on that regard. | 
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|  07-21-2020, 03:42 PM | #4 | 
| Enthusiast            Posts: 26 Karma: 150000 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: PW2 | 
			
			No, I would advise not. My PW2 has more battery life than my wife's PW4, screen is protected from sand and other dirt that already made some fine scratches on my wife's device, reading experience is the same, firmware is final and does not have any bugs, if you have any active content it will not exist on PW4. Other than water proofing and Bluetooth audio books on PW4 I see no advantages.
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|  07-21-2020, 04:23 PM | #5 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,727 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | Quote: 
 But before the trigger is pulled for a newer Kindle, is that what's really wanted? There are other brand Readers to look at such as Kobo and Pocketbook. | |
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|  07-22-2020, 09:12 AM | #6 | 
| Enthusiast  Posts: 42 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Sony PRS-650; PW2 | 
			
			Thanks for the replies, guys.   Think I'll just hold off any new purchase. Was just curious if the screen tech had improved enough to warrant a consideration. Doesn't sound like any of the devices (Kindle or otherwise) have done anything "revolutionary" in that regard based on what I've found. I doubt I'd notice the differences. If I do need a new device, I'll have a look at these. Kinda forgot about Kobo and don't believe I've heard of Pocketbook. Thanks. | 
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|  07-22-2020, 09:18 AM | #7 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,727 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | Quote: 
 I think you should look at Kobo or Pocketbook to see what they can do vs a Kindle so if you decide you want one, (because the firmware on both is much better then Kindle) you can start saving if you need to. | |
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|  07-22-2020, 11:00 AM | #8 | 
| C L J            Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2 | 
			
			I have the PW2 and PW3 and really don't notice the difference in the resolution, in fact I prefer the softer look of the PW2. I bought the second device because I needed more space, and frankly wanted to treat myself. I didn't pay full price for the PW3 which was secondhand from ebay.
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|  07-22-2020, 12:38 PM | #9 | |
| Enthusiast  Posts: 42 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Sony PRS-650; PW2 | Quote: 
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|  07-22-2020, 12:55 PM | #10 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,775 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022 | 
			
			I'm trying to upload a picture, but it isn't working for me again. After I select UPLOAD, I get a blank page. I'll try with Chrome. No joy on Chrome...same thing, a white page after UPLOAD. I have a Paperwhite 2 and the new Paperwhite 4. Same book, same font, same spacing and size, light all the way up. The 4 has a noticeably whiter brighter light. I think the font is crisper. If I'm ever able to upload a pic, I will. Last edited by Deskisamess; 07-22-2020 at 12:59 PM. | 
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|  07-22-2020, 12:55 PM | #11 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 8,003 Karma: 71261339 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Clara 2E | Quote: 
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|  07-22-2020, 01:30 PM | #12 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,775 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022 | 
			
			This time it worked...I reduced the image size. The Paperwhite on the left is the 2nd gen. Settings for both are the same. I see that reducing the image size made the picture grainy. Sorry...fixed it, deleted bad pic. Last edited by Deskisamess; 07-22-2020 at 01:34 PM. | 
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|  07-22-2020, 01:42 PM | #13 | 
| Addict            Posts: 210 Karma: 4491791 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: South Africa Device: Kindle PW4 | 
			
			Can the PW4 be made to look like the PW 2nd gen ?  Kinda like the old book look.
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|  07-22-2020, 01:51 PM | #14 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 2,775 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022 | Quote: 
 That said, my husband was happily using his 2nd gen with no complaints. His motivation to get a new model was spurred by the recent sale, and the desire to give his 2nd gen to our oldest grandson, who is an avid reader, and was using an old Fire for reading. | |
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|  07-22-2020, 01:56 PM | #15 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | 
			
			You'd need a reader with the night light for that. Kindle Oasis or a Kobo, for example. Otherwise it's the matter of pure chance. Screen tone varies between devices, even between devices of the same model. To be absolutely certain you can make the screen yellowish the reader must have a night light (aka warm light).
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