|  11-01-2019, 10:17 AM | #1 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,158 Karma: 92500001 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles |  Free Library of Philadelphia discontinuing remote memberships 
			
			Just received this email from the Free Library of Philadelphia: Quote: 
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|  11-01-2019, 10:23 AM | #2 | 
| Compulsive Gadget Geek            Posts: 407 Karma: 4219324 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Central Virginia Device: One of each, and two in some cases | 
			
			Yeah, I just got that too. I haz a sad. They're a great source for best sellers if you don't mind waiting a month or three.
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|  11-01-2019, 11:12 AM | #3 | 
| Passionate Reader            Posts: 276 Karma: 1829152 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Central Jersey, USA Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, Kobo Clara HD, Fire HD 8, Voyage, Oasis 3, PW5 | 
			
			Oh dear. I hope other libraries don't follow suit. I borrow a lot from Brooklyn Public Library.
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|  11-01-2019, 11:15 AM | #4 | 
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,514 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | 
			
			I understand why they're making this call and FLP OD has gone downhill, however, they're my only source for Hoopla and I borrow a ton of audiobooks there.
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|  11-01-2019, 11:58 AM | #5 | 
| Member  Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2015 Device: Kobo H20 | 
			
			I also got that today. Sad, I would have preferred a price increase if their issue is cost. Dave | 
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|  11-01-2019, 01:04 PM | #6 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,158 Karma: 92500001 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles | Quote: 
 I will miss the access they provide to Freading. That has a large collection of back catalog e-books from publishers like Open Road Media with no waiting lists. | |
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|  11-01-2019, 05:27 PM | #7 | 
| Enthusiast            Posts: 42 Karma: 120842 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage |  Free Library of Philadelphia discontinuing remote memberships 
			
			The Free Library of Philadelphia is discontinuing their paid access library cards effective immediately. Sad day. Dear Customer: In order to focus its efforts and resources on customers in its direct service area, the Free Library will no longer offer paid-access cards. Your paid-access card will remain valid and usable for the duration of the term for which you paid. At the end of that term, you will no longer be able to access the Free Library’s resources, and you will be unable to renew your card for a further term. Thank you for your understanding! | 
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|  11-01-2019, 05:48 PM | #8 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip | 
			
			I'm surprised that it's (apparently) not cost-effective for FLP to offer paid cards. I gave up my membership a few years back when their audiobook acquisitions, in particular, seemed to become quite meager.
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|  11-01-2019, 05:58 PM | #9 | 
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,514 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | 
			
			I've moved FLP posts from another thread to this one.
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|  11-01-2019, 06:21 PM | #10 | |
| Enthusiast            Posts: 42 Karma: 120842 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage | Quote: 
 FLPs ebook selection has remained good; at least in my interests - mystery and history. Unlike Brooklyn Library, which has been terrible for ebooks for the last year. There is no explanation on the FLP website why this decision was made. I'm sure the local FLP patrons are thrilled to see competition for ebooks and audiobooks will decrease for them over the next year. How this will effect supply, only time will tell. Those folks that have been using FLP because their local library does not provide a good selection of ebooks and/or audiobooks are going to be searching for another alternative soon. | |
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|  11-01-2019, 06:35 PM | #11 | ||
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,514 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | Quote: 
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 I borrow a lot of audiobooks through their Hoopla portal. Still, if FLP wanted to cut back on the wait times, the obvious change would be to limit borrows to two weeks and not three. | ||
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|  11-01-2019, 06:55 PM | #12 | 
| Groupie            Posts: 151 Karma: 123456 Join Date: Sep 2019 Device: none | 
			
			I wonder what annual fee it would take to operate a national digital library.  Little physical overhead to drain resources compared to a brick library,  but also lacking mandatory contributions by non-patrons (ie: taxpayers). Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk | 
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|  11-01-2019, 07:18 PM | #13 | |
| Gadget Lover            Posts: 537 Karma: 5063196 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MS, USA Device: Oasis 2, Mobiscribe Origin, Fire HD tablets | Quote: 
 Details: Spoiler: 
 The application process starts here You don't have to visit a NY library in person, but you'll need to submit a copy of your ID to confirm your physical residence; and your library member number (you select your 4 digit PIN in the application) required to borrow ebooks and audiobooks gets sent by email fairly quickly, and your card will follow by mail. Annual renewal is painless; once you send an email request to renew, $50 in fees is added to your library account and you can pay by credit card. I'm very happy with my Brooklyn Overdrive membership and hope that the facility continues to be available! | |
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|  11-01-2019, 08:06 PM | #14 | 
| Guru            Posts: 686 Karma: 6495650 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Arlington, VA Device: Kindle App, Kobo App | 
			
			Just speculating, but I wonder if this might be part of the ongoing ‘discussions’ between the libraries/ALA and publishers about licensing terms. Back in July when the Macmillan CEO announced upcoming changes to book releases, among other reasons, he cited: “The increase in library ebook reading is driven by a number of factors: a seamless delivery of ebooks to reading devices and apps (there is no friction in e-lending, particularly compared to physical book lending), the active marketing by various parties to turn purchasers into borrowers, and apps that support lending across libraries regardless of residence (including borrowing from libraries in different states and countries), to name a few.” Could be libraries are deciding the extra income from out of staters isn’t enough to make up for extra hassle, including from the publishers. Just guessing, though. Needs more friction!!    https://www.publishersweekly.com/bin...004/4222-1.pdf | 
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|  11-01-2019, 09:19 PM | #15 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,470 Karma: 44114178 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation) | Quote: 
 Another speculation could be that there wasn't enough revenue generated to make the exercise a net benefit to Philadelphians. As far as charging more than Brooklyn for fewer titles, they might have thought that idea unfair to remaining out of town patrons. Another speculation is that, without any threats from publishers, their lawyer nixed it out of an abundance of caution. Another remote membership practice is their allowing Pennsylvanians outside Philadelphia to borrow for free. While this is almost universal practice, in the state, for paper books, some suburban counties do not practice reciprocity with their eBook collections. I wonder if Brooklyn will respond to decreased competition by raising their price. If I was on their board, I would  EDITED: I just realized that raising the price may have issues. Profitable borrowers, who only take out a few titles a year, would drop out, leaving you with those who borrow so frequently as to make profitability impossible, even at a much higher price. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 11-01-2019 at 10:23 PM. | |
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