Blast from the Past

[tubemonkey]

My love for classical music started with Bugs Bunny cartoons:

[OtinG]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

My love for classical music started with Bugs Bunny cartoons:

They definitely used a lot of classical music. I assume that was a copyright thing because the classical music was long out of copyright and in the public domain. The Lone Ranger series used the William Tell Overture. Mighty Mouse had its classical music for sure, as did most of the cartoons from that era.

[OtinG]

[wodin]

Originally Posted by OtinG

I wonder if Disney and Warner Brothers collaborated on this? Somehow I don't think so.

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by wodin

I wonder if Disney and Warner Brothers collaborated on this? Somehow I don't think so.

Yes, they did. All of the cartoon owners agreed to let their cartoons be used for the movie. Only one house did not.

Where's Popeye. . .

[wodin]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Yes, they did. All of the cartoon owners agreed to let their cartoons be used for the movie. Only one house did not.

Where's Popeye. . .

Well, I'll be gobsmacked. Disney? Really? You can't even render Mickey on a napkin without fearing a cease and desist order.

[OtinG]

Originally Posted by wodin

Well, I'll be gobsmacked. Disney? Really? You can't even render Mickey on a napkin without fearing a cease and desist order.

I still have trouble understanding how Mickey Mouse built the Disney empire. That is the lamest bleeping cartoon character of all time. Most of Walt’s cartoon characters were pretty lame. The ones created for animated movies were better, but the mouse sucked! I liked Hanna Barbera and the Looney Tunes characters, but never got into the Disney ones.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Yes, they did. All of the cartoon owners agreed to let their cartoons be used for the movie. Only one house did not.

Where's Popeye. . .

Didn't Betty Boop also appear in the movie? I think she was from the same studio as Popeye wasn't she?

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by wodin

Well, I'll be gobsmacked. Disney? Really? You can't even render Mickey on a napkin without fearing a cease and desist order.

Disney made the picture. . .

[crich70]

Originally Posted by OtinG

I still have trouble understanding how Mickey Mouse built the Disney empire. That is the lamest bleeping cartoon character of all time. Most of Walt’s cartoon characters were pretty lame. The ones created for animated movies were better, but the mouse sucked! I liked Hanna Barbera and the Looney Tunes characters, but never got into the Disney ones.

You have to remember that Disney was one of (if not the first) cartoon studio. First to really use color, first to have audio matched to the pictures and they had the multi plane camera as well. And then Disney made Snow White the first full length animated movie. And it all started with the mouse. People in the early days of cinema were fascinated by the fact that pictures could be made to move at all. Animated cartoons were a novelty built on that fascination. We take it for granted now because they have been shown over and over again on Saturday mornings. The Disney shorts were originally made to be shown in movie theater's along with the serial, double feature and newsreel. Going to the movies was a lot cheaper back then I'm sure and you got more for your money than you do now. I think it was around $4.00 for a ticket when I was a kid. Now days if I go (on the weekend) by time I get in and buy my popcorn and diet soda I've laid out about $15.00 (just for one person). I rarely go now and just wait for the DVD to come out so I can watch that. These days it isn't even film stock, but a DVD disk and LCD projector that is used. If you look closely at old movies they have a circle or dot in one upper corner of a set of frames now and then. That was to tell the projectionist to get ready to switch to the next camera (as the reel that was running presently was about to run out). Now days that isn't an issue.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by OtinG

They definitely used a lot of classical music. I assume that was a copyright thing because the classical music was long out of copyright and in the public domain. The Lone Ranger series used the William Tell Overture. Mighty Mouse had its classical music for sure, as did most of the cartoons from that era.

Also the studios had access to full orchestra's back then. The music was of high quality compared to some today.

[wodin]

Originally Posted by crich70

Also the studios had access to full orchestra's back then. The music was of high quality compared to some today.

On the other hand, many of the modern analogies to the "classics" were composed for block buster films. Some that come to mind are Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jaws, 2001, and some even for television like Star Trek and Hawaii Five-O.

I think that in the early days of film, the studios didn't have access to world class composers.

[Dylrob]

Originally Posted by wodin

Well, I'll be gobsmacked. Disney? Really? You can't even render Mickey on a napkin without fearing a cease and desist order.

Yeah, the only condition was that the flagship Disney and Warner Bros characters had to have the same amount of screen time. That's why Donald and Daffy, and in a later scene later Mickey and Bugs, are paired together.

[Dylrob]

Originally Posted by crich70

Didn't Betty Boop also appear in the movie? I think she was from the same studio as Popeye wasn't she?

While they were made by the same studio originally (which became part of Paramount), Popeye was eventually sold to Turner Entertainment, which was still a few years away from becoming a sister company to Warner Bros when Who Framed Roger Rabbit was made.

[tubemonkey]