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Old 10-09-2018, 12:56 PM   #91
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PS after posting , i thought again about remote lock .... you can call amazon and get your stolen kindle blacklisted but Kobo don't have that facility
You can set your Kobo to require a PIN to unlock if you're that worried about it.
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:39 PM   #92
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... sometimes I just remember what page I was on ...
I do, too. It seems the old skills are dying out - much like mental arithmetic and spelling

Sometimes I think I'd quite like an automatic page sync across devices, then I remember how much I hate the idea of enabling wi-fi on my eink devices.
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:18 PM   #93
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As 99% of he book sales in USA is made on amazon, kindle accessibility made them buy one. i tend to think that 95% of buyers of the kindle don't even know that there are other manufacturers of the ebook readers.
I think this is a pretty succinct observation/summation right here -- everybody uses and likes Kindles because everybody uses and likes Kindles! I'm not mocking here -- Amazon's done a great job at making a reading device that works just fine for pretty much anybody who just wants to read a book, and then they (Amazon) make it easy to buy and read more and more books.

Sure there are minor technical differences between hardware manufacturers between e-ink and other display devices, but hey, we've had hardback vs. paperback readers since the dawn of publishing (well, paperback publishing, anyway) and you'll always find some subset of aficionados in any endeavor (e.g. audiophiles, camera nuts, etc.) who'll tell you why whatever they're using is the bee's knees.

My own situation: I love books, I love ereaders, I'll read on whatever format I can find, but one big thing -- I own and love a lot of "obsolete" technology and if you think some particular company and/or some particular brand of technology is gonna be around forever, I've got a stack of 8-track tapes to sell you. Amazon's the 800-lb. gorilla at the moment, but I've got a couple of IBM Selectric typewriters that work great and cost $$$$ when new and were THE machine of choice for mission-critical typing back in the day ... I picked these up for free, somebody was junking them. They work just fine, nobody wanted to use them anymore. Sigh.

My current e-reader "platform" is mostly epub books (some "stock," some converted using Calibre, I'm not opposed to shopping whatever store/format has the book I'm looking for) using fb reader as my reader/app, this I can install on all my devices (rooted Nook devices running Android, including an old Nook Simple Touch that is now "obsolete," funny how that works), and my "library" gets synced across everything because fb reader can easily recognize any OPDS (Open Publication Distribution System) library and it's a snap to sync my Google Drive with fb reader's OPDS system, then I can find/sort/read any book on any device, anywhere I've got a network connection.

AND/OR, I can download all my books to all my devices via (micro)SD card, and if/when some device craps out or I leave it on the bus or airplane, I don't sweat it, everything's backed up where I can find it. P.S. Having all my books on Google Drive doesn't negate having them backed up on local hardware, of course.

So, theoretically, in the future, as whatever manufacturer comes up with yet another e-reader and/or reader app that's The Must Have Thing next year, I'm ready for it. Also -- and more importantly -- when somebody I know decides to toss their "obsolete" but still completely working e-reader so they can spend $$$ to buy a new one, I ask them to toss it my way and they're happy, I'm happy ... what's not to love?

P.S. Don't get me started on competing e-book "formats" (e.g azw3, mobi, epub, djvu, fb2, etc.) -- that's all marketing BS, not technical brilliance. Feh!
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:39 PM   #94
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That is an answer to the question in the name of this topic. 95% americans are function on the principle click-and-buy without getting into the topic.
As 99% of he book sales in USA is made on amazon, kindle accessibility made them buy one. i tend to think that 95% of buyers of the kindle don't even know that there are other manufacturers of the ebook readers.
Are any of those numbers accurate? Looking at this website:

http://authorearnings.com/report/dbw2017/

Your "99%" number looks high?
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Old 10-09-2018, 02:39 PM   #95
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I do, too. It seems the old skills are dying out - much like mental arithmetic and spelling
And knowing phone numbers and being able to read a map and remembering how to get there from here. . . .
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:58 PM   #96
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Your "99%" number looks high?
where do you usually buy printed book? bookstore or amazon?
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Old 10-09-2018, 04:16 PM   #97
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where do you usually buy printed book? bookstore or amazon?
If you are going to use me as an example, than 0% of the people buy there paper books from Amazon.

How about a link? Doing a Google, I couldn-t find your 99% number, which leads me to question your other numbers.
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:27 PM   #98
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Personally, I think you put far to much emphasis on this. For the people I know who are using ereaders, none of them are reading on multiple devices. And, I have had to demonstrate the annotations function as they didn't know about it. There reactions tended to be somewhere between "cute" and "why?".


Again, I think a lot more emphasis is put on this here than really exists. Again, I've had to teach people about the dictionary in their ereaders. And most thought "handy" but didn't expect to use it. And I have reminded some of these people about it at other times.

But, I do agree that Kobo should have a better dictionary available. The last time I looked, they appeared to be using the free Merriam-Webster electronic dictionary. So, the choice was probably about keeping the cost down. An option to buy a better one for those who need it would be good.
I read the same book on my smartphone, ipad and kindle all the time. When I'm away from home, I'm using my smartphone to read the book; at work, I'm using my kindle I leave in my office at work; and at home I read on either another kindle or my ipad, depending on the type of book I'm reading (non-fiction tends to be better on the ipad for me). So yes, there are people that use multiple devices to read ebooks. And the syncing is very much needed for sideloaded books for me.

Edit: desired rather than needed. . Syncing is nice but not "needed", so I'll amend that.
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I read on several different devices; sometimes it's different books and sometimes I just remember what page I was on. Syncing's not important to me. I mostly keep WiFi off anyway.
I use WiFi on the devices that have it, but I read a lot on older devices that don't. So syncing is nice when it's there, and remembering chapters or pages is doable when it's not. A lot of times I'm reading one book on one device, another on another — and a third on a third one. So syncing is not necessary in that case.
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where do you usually buy printed book? bookstore or amazon?
Used, on eBay mostly.
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If you are going to use me as an example, than 0% of the people buy there paper books from Amazon.

How about a link? Doing a Google, I couldn-t find your 99% number, which leads me to question your other numbers.
I've been exaggerating a little just to make a point.
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I had a Kobo Aura about 4 years ago. The hardware was fine but I wasn't impressed with the firmware and went back to the kindle. I've never had a bad one out of almost 10 years of using kindles.

That said, if Kobo made a lighted 5" e-ink reader, I would definitely be interested.
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I had a Kobo Aura about 4 years ago. The hardware was fine but I wasn't impressed with the firmware...
I do think the out-of-the-box Kobo firmware leaves something to be desired. But I do love it after patches. It does feel like some of the patches ought to be enabled by default (full screen reading as an option and advanced font control for sideloaded fonts, for instance).
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Why do more people know Amazon but not Kobo eReaders?
Better marketing of an inferior product.
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Understanding that the majority of buyers are less interested in the product (physical eReader) than the ecosystem. And they have, for many people, the best ecosystem.
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