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|  07-24-2017, 10:12 AM | #16 | 
| User            Posts: 234 Karma: 3246802 Join Date: Jul 2013 Device: Iphone, Kindle 3, PW1/2/3, KOA1/2/3, Aura HD/One/, Kobo Forma | 
			
			Noir, not first person, highly recommended - Irish novelist, Booker Prize winner John Banville, writing under pen name Benjamin Black. His series about pathologist Quirke in 1950s Dublin.  Starting with the book Christine Falls | 
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|  07-24-2017, 10:31 AM | #17 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour | Quote: 
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|  07-24-2017, 11:03 AM | #18 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour | Quote: 
 The Fred Zackle book looks intriguing. I'll get more information on it. I already had the Bowker book ("Dover Beach"), but I've never read it. I just now downloaded it and will check it out. Too bad that the Edward Wright book is not available as an ebook. It sounds interesting. Thanks. | |
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|  07-24-2017, 11:03 AM | #19 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 101 Karma: 6968070 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Intransit Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo BW | 
			
			First let me say I am glad the James Hadley Chase books were suggested. That makes me happy. Now your list of already read, been there, done that, really narrows things down and hurts my head. In fact the only author I can think of is Ace Atkins. I would start with his book “Devil’s Garden”. Atkins uses Dashiell Hammett as his main character during his days working for the Pinkerton Detective Agency. This is a really unique take on a gumshoe story that I really liked. Next I would recommend Atkins “Infamous”. The main character in this one is not a private detective but a special agent of the newly formed FBI when all the rules didn't apply. This is hard boiled as any detective story I have ever read. Has all the gangsters and tough guys you know and love. Atkins has written lots of books for you to explore. Ok...I think my head has stopped hurting now. | 
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|  07-24-2017, 11:35 AM | #20 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour | Quote: 
 That's an author I'm totally unfamiliar with. I'll go and get some information (and maybe download a sample to check it out). Thanks! -----Although I am not a doctor (and have never played one in a commercial), I understand that aspirins can sometimes mitigate the pain due to that 'headacy' feeling. | |
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|  07-24-2017, 11:37 AM | #21 | 
| Just a Yellow Smiley.            Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5,  fire, kobo, galaxy | 
			
			Hi.  Since you want hard boiled and to keep warm.  https://www.amazon.com/How-Hard-Boil...dp/B00BQ0DIOS/ | 
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|  07-24-2017, 11:42 AM | #22 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour | Quote: 
 No, no, no! An OT recipe book will be posted AFTER I chose my ebook from the many wonderful suggestions. Remember: OT = cookbook Let's not hatch our eggs before we boil the little critter! | |
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|  07-24-2017, 12:03 PM | #23 | |
| Cheese Whiz            Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a. | Quote: 
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|  07-24-2017, 01:06 PM | #24 | 
| The Couch Potato            Posts: 34,509 Karma: 230999999 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kobo Glo, Kobo Touch, Archos 9, Onyx Boox C67ML Carta | 
			
			James Hadley Chase is the first author which pops up in the mind suitable to your choice. Which Issybird has already recommended. I too started reading Chase novels during last months. They are outstanding hard boiled thrillers.  Another name which I can recommend is Earl Stanley Gardner. His Perry Mason series is undoubtedly superb, involving courtroom drama. But his another series written under the pseudonym - A.A. Fair, published during '40s to '60s depicting private invetigators Bertha Cool & Donald Lam, seems perfect to your taste. You may give it a try if not alread read. | 
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|  07-24-2017, 01:15 PM | #25 | |
| Just a Yellow Smiley.            Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5,  fire, kobo, galaxy | Quote: 
 I thought about Russell Blake's Black series but I don't think it is as hard boiled as you are looking for. Too modern. | |
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|  07-24-2017, 01:36 PM | #26 | 
| Home Guard            Posts: 4,730 Karma: 86721650 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alpha Ralpha Boulevard Device: Kindle Oasis 3G, iPhone 6 | 
			
			I suppose you've read Richard Stark's (aka Donald Westlake) Parker books. If not, it starts with The Hunter which has been made into four movies including Lee Marvin's Point Blank and Mel Gibson's Payback. The Hunter is more of a revenge story, the rest of the books are heist novels.  In any case Parker is as hard-boiled as they get. | 
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|  07-24-2017, 01:39 PM | #27 | 
| Home Guard            Posts: 4,730 Karma: 86721650 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alpha Ralpha Boulevard Device: Kindle Oasis 3G, iPhone 6 | 
			
			Parker’s Rules Don’t ever show a gun to a man you don’t want to kill. Don’t talk to the law. Always split the money fair. Each man for himself. Don’t kill somebody unless you have to. It puts the law on you like nothing else. Never leave a guy alive who’d like to see you dead. Don’t let yourself be framed in a lit doorway. Don’t meet in a town where you’re going to make a hit. Don’t stay in the hotel where you’re going to make a hit. Don’t take a job on consignment. Don’t work with anyone you can’t trust or don’t respect. When there’s no place to hide, stay where you are. Any job that requires more than five guys to be pulled can’t be pulled. For a big enough score, any rule can be broken. | 
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|  07-24-2017, 02:09 PM | #28 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,721 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | Quote: 
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|  07-24-2017, 02:13 PM | #29 | 
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,721 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			There is another series that fits. It's by Kevin J. Anderson Dan Shamble, Zombie PI 1. Death Warmed Over (2012) 1.5. Stakeout at the Vampire Circus (2013) 2. Unnatural Acts (2012) 2.5. Road Kill (2013) 3. Hair Raising (2013) 3.5. Naughty and Nice (2013) 4. Slimy Underbelly (2014) 5. Working Stiff (2015) Yes, he's a zombie, but he's old school hard boiled. | 
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|  07-24-2017, 02:23 PM | #30 | |
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