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Now the other day, I placed 3 orders at Amazon. The first one had sales tax. It was sold and shipped from Amazon to a Texas address. The second had no tax because it went to a different state. The last one was sold by a 3rd party and fulfilled by Amazon. No tax but going to a Texas residence. |
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Unless the company involved has a physical presence in New Zealand, New Zealand will have a great deal of trouble trying to enforce the new law. There is very little they can do to some Mom and Pop store selling over the internet. |
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Of course we will all have differing ideas as to what those obligations that we may feel are. I take from the tone of your post that everyone should accept your interpretation as to what any such voluntary obligation is rather than their own; if that is not your intention then your concept is completely at large. |
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But according to the law an individual is supposed to calculate and find out what sales tax is owed and pay it but no one does. |
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ie as specified here: https://www.comptroller.texas.gov/ta...es/use-tax.php There is massive fraud with use tax; a huge number of people don't pay it. In the example you cite above, you owe use tax on the third order, because no sales tax was paid on it, and the product is being used or consumed in Texas. Last edited by HarryT; 10-03-2016 at 04:57 AM. |
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I'm not sure why you think local business should be put at a disadvantage to foreign business & multinationals. |
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I find myself in the position of agreeing totally with pwalker8. Not all that frequent, but welcome Are there no governments in this world that consider the practicality of collecting a tax when they legislate for it? Let's face it, Harry. Use tax is ridiculous because it is unenforceable, if not literally then because it would cost far more to administer properly and collect than the revenue it produces. Human nature is what it is. And bad laws, including practically unenforceable ones tend to bring the law and the legistlature itself into contempt. I suspect that there are very few taxpayers in the states concerned who do not ignore it. And if the tax administrations concerned are sensible they probably don't throw away too much money trying to collect. Nor would i suspect many successful prosecutions for evading it, though I'm sure there is an occasional conviction with huge publicity to encourage "voluntary" compliance.
It is regrettable that local businesses are placed at a disadvantage. The best solution is for governments is to relieve local businesses of the burden and raise their revenue elsewhere. Or better still in most cases, cut some unnecessary expenditure and do without. Certainly a token use tax which is widely ignored simply gives the appearance of having solved the problem without doing so. While separate jurisdictions exist and levy their own taxes this type of problem will continue to occur. Last edited by darryl; 10-03-2016 at 05:58 AM. |
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Oh, I completely agree with you. I was merely using it as a counter-example to pwalker's suggestion that tax evasion is not widespread in the US. There is massive tax evasion with use tax, hence I would certainly not hold it up as a shining example of a good way to collect taxes on sales. The only sensible way to collect sales taxes it to do it at the point of sale. Any taxation system that relies on people voluntarily paying it is doomed to failure.
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There is, though, a difference between that and the sales tax/use tax situation. Unless you're going to have mandatory searches of everyone's luggage as they enter a country, the current system of relying on voluntary declaration backed up by random searches is probably the only practical way to do it. The US system of relying on voluntary payment of use tax, on the other hand, could easily be changed to a system whereby all retailers charge sales tax for online purchases, instead of the current rather odd system of only charging sales tax if the retailer has a physical presence in a state. Last edited by HarryT; 10-03-2016 at 07:07 AM. |
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