Kindle eBooks will have PUBLIC Warnings for spelling/formatting errors!

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Katie1

This is why I Don't read SiFi... To much made up crap. Now you tell me even Made up Words! No wonder Kids Cant Spell or READ!

Not only is this completely untrue (made-up words are far older than SciFi, as Cinisajoy pointed out), I also find this comment rather hilarious given who it is coming from.

You have randomly sprinkled your sentences with arbitrarily-capitalized words, used "to" instead of "too", left out an apostrophe in the word "can't"...

If you wish to criticize other peoples' spelling (and other linguistic errata), please mind your own first.

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Oh, and I am not far gone from being a kid myself.
I also read more SciFi than three or four ordinary people (just SciFi -- but I read plenty of Fantasy too ).

Now tell me, which of the two of us has better spelling? Perhaps you should consider reading SciFi, since the evidence so far seems to be that it improves your spelling skills.

[doubleshuffle]

Anyone consider the possibility Katie1 was making a joke?

[eschwartz]

No, because after a while you get a feel for the type of things other members say.
And my gut feeling says that would be out of character for her.

Besides, if it was a joke, it was a pretty bad one.

[GeoffR]

Being able to recognise spelling or grammatical mistakes is different from being able to spell or construct sentences or type, just as being able to read a novel is different from being able to write one, or being able to understand a language is different from being able to speak it. Learning to analyse doesn't automatically result in the ability to synthesise.

So I can recognise when my toilet needs fixing and I am entitled to criticise the plumber who does a bad job of fixing it, even though I have no idea how to fix it myself.

(Edit: But it is not fair to criticise someone who doesn't claim to be a professional for not meeting professional standards. So to make my point explicit and avoid misunderstandings, it is fair enough for a reader to complain about spelling mistakes in a professionally published book, even if they can't acheive the same standard of spelling themselves. Pointing out spelling mistakes in the complaint doesn't necessarily invalidate that complaint, not even if it is a complaint about spelling.)

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by GeoffR

(Edit: But it is not fair to criticise someone who doesn't claim to be a professional for not meeting professional standards. So to make my point explicit and avoid misunderstandings, it is fair enough for a reader to complain about spelling mistakes in a professionally published book, even if they can't acheive the same standard of spelling themselves. Pointing out spelling mistakes in the complaint doesn't necessarily invalidate that complaint, not even if it is a complaint about spelling.)

The complaint was not about standards in a professional book, but that reading SF makes a child a poor speller. That's not something I would personally agree with.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by GeoffR

Being able to recognise spelling or grammatical mistakes is different from being able to spell or construct sentences or type, just as being able to read a novel is different from being able to write one, or being able to understand a language is different from being able to speak it. Learning to analyse doesn't automatically result in the ability to synthesise.

So I can recognise when my toilet needs fixing and I am entitled to criticise the plumber who does a bad job of fixing it, even though I have no idea how to fix it myself.

(Edit: But it is not fair to criticise someone who doesn't claim to be a professional for not meeting professional standards. So to make my point explicit and avoid misunderstandings, it is fair enough for a reader to complain about spelling mistakes in a professionally published book, even if they can't acheive the same standard of spelling themselves. Pointing out spelling mistakes in the complaint doesn't necessarily invalidate that complaint, not even if it is a complaint about spelling.)

Originally Posted by HarryT

The complaint was not about standards in a professional book, but that reading SF makes a child a poor speller. That's not something I would personally agree with.

I agree with Harry. Katie was implying that people are bad spellers and readers because they read "SiFi" (what, exactly, *is* "SiFi", anyway?) However, even in the statement about how "SiFi" is the reason for bad spelling, she misspelled a word, (one that was spelled correctly in the post above hers, incidentally) used the wrong word, ("to" instead of "too") and randomly capitalized others. If you read other posts by her, you'll see many examples of other misspelled words and grammar.

For someone who doesn't read "SiFi", she seems to have quite a bit of a problem spelling.

Originally Posted by Katie1

This is why I Don't read SiFi... To much made up crap. Now you tell me even Made up Words! No wonder Kids Cant Spell or READ!

Shari

[JSWolf]

Can Amazon also have warnings for badly written self-published books?

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can Amazon also have warnings for badly written self-published books?

Why? Go Set a Watchman didn't get a warning; why should indie titles be singled out?

[shalym]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can Amazon also have warnings for badly written self-published books?

I believe that would be the reviews. You can also usually get a clue from the book description. If both of those don't work, the "Look Inside" works as an early warning system 95% of the time.

If all else fails, Amazon will usually allow returns, even outside the 7 day window.

Shari

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Anyone consider the possibility Katie1 was making a joke?

Yes, I considered that possibility, then I saw who made the comment.
I agree with HarryT and eschwartz on this one.
She also has a habit of posting half-truths or totally wrong facts because she thinks she knows because something totally different was done to her.

I personally found her comment insulting.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by GeoffR

Being able to recognise spelling or grammatical mistakes is different from being able to spell or construct sentences or type, just as being able to read a novel is different from being able to write one, or being able to understand a language is different from being able to speak it. Learning to analyse doesn't automatically result in the ability to synthesise.

So I can recognise when my toilet needs fixing and I am entitled to criticise the plumber who does a bad job of fixing it, even though I have no idea how to fix it myself.

(Edit: But it is not fair to criticise someone who doesn't claim to be a professional for not meeting professional standards. So to make my point explicit and avoid misunderstandings, it is fair enough for a reader to complain about spelling mistakes in a professionally published book, even if they can't acheive the same standard of spelling themselves. Pointing out spelling mistakes in the complaint doesn't necessarily invalidate that complaint, not even if it is a complaint about spelling.)

... And this case, to extend your comparison, is comparable to someone who recognizes their toilet needs fixing, has no idea how to fix it themselves, and then proceeds to criticize their next-door-neighbor during a casual schmooze, for not knowing how to fix the toilet either.

Reread Katie1's post, and take note of the fact that the target of her criticism was not "professional publishers of SciFi", the target of her criticism was "those idiot, uncultured, illiterate fools who buy and/or read SciFi".

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Which rings about as hollow as her usual posts, now I think about it. Her claims tend to have more problems than merely spelling errata.

But I wouldn't feel the need to comment, if it weren't for the equally typical hypocrisy involved.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

... And this case, to extend your comparison, is comparable to someone who recognizes their toilet needs fixing, has no idea how to fix it themselves, and then proceeds to criticize their next-door-neighbor during a casual schmooze, for not knowing how to fix the toilet either.

Reread Katie1's post, and take note of the fact that the target of her criticism was not "professional publishers of SciFi", the target of her criticism was "those idiot, uncultured, illiterate fools who buy and/or read SciFi".

...

Which rings about as hollow as her usual posts, now I think about it. Her claims tend to have more problems than merely spelling errata.

But I wouldn't feel the need to comment, if it weren't for the equally typical hypocrisy involved.

Do you mean like her telling someone they had to get a new Voyage with the 20% discount that was offered because Amazon would only REPLACE her PW2 with a PW2?
Amazon had offered the first poster a 20% discount off of any ereader.

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

...You have randomly sprinkled your sentences with arbitrarily-capitalized words, used "to" instead of "too", left out a comma in the word "can't"....

You didn't use a comma, either, in your spelling of the word "can't". But you did remember to use an apostrophe.

[Phogg]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

You didn't use a comma, either, in your spelling of the word "can't". But you did remember to use an apostrophe.

What I want to know is how come A Positive gets a trophy over all of the other antigens?

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

You didn't use a comma, either, in your spelling of the word "can't". But you did remember to use an apostrophe.

Given the subject matter... how mortifying. Fixed.