Go to first new post - not always working - Page 3

Wetdogeared · 01-19-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Excellent that shortcut seems correct and it should always be the same. Basically what it does it (by using goto=newpost inside the URL) is to rewrite the URL so it jumps to the latest unread post. Alright. With the next update, could you also post the resulting URL that appears in your address bar after you clicked on the arrow?

Your post allowed me to click on next new post. It took me to your new post. Url at top of screen is as follows:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...487#post330487

Alexander Turcic · 01-19-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Your post allowed me to click on next new post. It took me to your new post. Url at top of screen is as follows:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...487#post330487

Good. This is correct. The number you see here (post330487) shows the id of the post your browser is supposed to scroll to. If you click on the link you posted (which scrolls you to my earlier post), you see on the top right of my post a number (#30). If you hover over it with your mouse, you should see the same post id that you were redirected to.

At this point I am out of ideas why at times your browser seems to jump to the wrong unread post. The best is if you keep us updated as soon as it happens again and post the relevant links here.

Another thought: Are you using different browsers?

zelda_pinwheel · 01-19-2009, 03:24 PM

i seem to remember having trouble with IE and named anchors a while back, it was not correctly jumping to them. maybe it's just a bug in IE (*gasp* !!). i can't remember how i managed to fix the problem myself though, sorry.

Wetdogeared · 01-19-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Good. This is correct. The number you see here (post330487) shows the id of the post your browser is supposed to scroll to. If you click on the link you posted (which scrolls you to my earlier post), you see on the top right of my post a number (#30). If you hover over it with your mouse, you should see the same post id that you were redirected to.

At this point I am out of ideas why at times your browser seems to jump to the wrong unread post. The best is if you keep us updated as soon as it happens again and post the relevant links here.

Another thought: Are you using different browsers?

No, I always use the same browser. Other than copying the shortcut everytime I go to look at a new post, I don't know how I can further a solution. I'll see if there is any rhyme or reason as to why I'm not getting repositioned at the new post.

Thanks for your help. Maybe if more members have the same problem we can pin it down.

Alexander Turcic · 01-19-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Other than copying the shortcut everytime I go to look at a new post, ...

Thanks. This might help us to solve the problem.

Wetdogeared · 01-19-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

Other than copying the shortcut everytime I go to look at a new post,...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Thanks. This might help us to solve the problem.

I have been copying the shortcut before going to new posts (the shortcut contains the newpost keyword). Sometimes it takes me there but most times I get put at the top of the last page. However I have noticed the following:

1. The post# in the URL at the top of the screen is the correct post#, yet I may have to scroll down a few pages to find the new post.

2. If I am incorrectly positioned at the top of the last page and hit enter, nothing happens, BUT...

3. If I highlight the URL at the top of the page, then hit enter, I am repositioned at the proper post.

Hope this helps. WDE

Wetdogeared · 01-19-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

I have been copying the shortcut before going to new posts (the shortcut contains the newpost keyword). Sometimes it takes me there but most times I get put at the top of the last page. However I have noticed the following:

1. The post# in the URL at the top of the screen is the correct post#, yet I may have to scroll down a few pages to find the new post.

2. If I am incorrectly positioned at the top of the last page and hit enter, nothing happens, BUT...

3. If I highlight the URL at the top of the page, then hit enter, I am repositioned at the proper post.

Hope this helps. WDE

4. If I hit the refresh arrows at the top of screen (this probably does the same thing as #3) it may take a second or 2, but I will be positioned at the correct post, matching the post# in the URL.

This sounds like IE problem, yes?/no?

WDE.

Alexander Turcic · 01-20-2009, 03:11 AM

Hmm. I have an idea. Will look into it today.

Alexander Turcic · 01-20-2009, 04:59 AM

It occured to me that using Internet Explorer, it sometimes takes a _long_ time to display threads. It seems that the pages are waiting until everything loads and then the entire page just 'pops' into view. This, in turn, causes IE to occasionally misplace anchored links - which is why the "go to first unread post" didn't always work for you.

The culprit, I believe, was the Quick Reply box near the bottom of the page; in particular the formatting controls (bold, italic, etc.) took a long time to initialize with IE. So what I did is to remove these controls. The quick reply box is still there, of course, and I don't believe many will miss these controls anyhow (you can always use the standard reply button to have all controls available). At least on my computer using IE, the page loading speed has improved.

Perhaps we'll make it a user option to customize the quick reply box, which would allow you to disable it completely to further increase loading speeds.

Feedback appreciated.

Wetdogeared · 01-20-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Feedback appreciated.

Hi Alex, here is some feedback. I'm not sure if you have implemented your changes yet, but the new posts did seem to display somewhat quicker this morning. These are the results of the 8 new posts that I clicked on:

3 of them repositioned to the right new post
1 of them repositioned to the quick response at the bottom of page
4 of them repositioned to the top of the last page, a refresh of the screen would reposition to the right new post.

Your efforts to alleviate this problem are appreciated.

Thanks.WDE

Alexander Turcic · 01-20-2009, 10:21 AM

Hi WDE,

yes we've already implemented the changes. At this point, I don't think there is anything we can do other to make it an option for users to turn off the Quick Reply all together (assuming this is the culprit, which I believe it is).

zelda_pinwheel · 01-20-2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Hi WDE,

yes we've already implemented the changes. At this point, I don't think there is anything we can do other to make it an option for users to turn off the Quick Reply all together (assuming this is the culprit, which I believe it is).

alex, if you make it optional, can you add back the B I etc. buttons for those who do display it ? i miss those (and i'm not using IE).

Alexander Turcic · 01-20-2009, 10:28 AM

Yeah I will. Apparently it doesn't even matter, since WDE seems to be having the same issues.

Honestly, I am stunned by this problem. It is IE-only, and occurs randomly. My guess is it has to do with various factors, like, how fast your connection is, how fast the page loads, and how fast IE initializes the Javascript for the reply box. If things take too long, IE wouldn't jump the the proper anchor link. Stupid IE.

zelda_pinwheel · 01-20-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Yeah I will. Honestly, I am stunned by this problem. It is apparently IE-only, and apparently occurs only occasionally. My guess is it has to do with various factors, like, how fast your connection is, how fast the page loads, and how fast IE initializes the Javascript for the reply box. Stupid IE.

can't say THAT enough !!

(seriously, WDE, here's how to fix your problem : get firefox. problem solved !

)

pilotbob · 01-20-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

can't say THAT enough !!

(seriously, WDE, here's how to fix your problem : get firefox. problem solved !

)

Or chrome or Safari or IE8 beta.

BOb

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01-19-2009, 03:24 PM	#33
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	i seem to remember having trouble with IE and named anchors a while back, it was not correctly jumping to them. maybe it's just a bug in IE (gasp !!). i can't remember how i managed to fix the problem myself though, sorry.

01-20-2009, 03:11 AM	#38
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Hmm. I have an idea. Will look into it today.

01-20-2009, 04:59 AM	#39
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	It occured to me that using Internet Explorer, it sometimes takes a _long_ time to display threads. It seems that the pages are waiting until everything loads and then the entire page just 'pops' into view. This, in turn, causes IE to occasionally misplace anchored links - which is why the "go to first unread post" didn't always work for you. The culprit, I believe, was the Quick Reply box near the bottom of the page; in particular the formatting controls (bold, italic, etc.) took a long time to initialize with IE. So what I did is to remove these controls. The quick reply box is still there, of course, and I don't believe many will miss these controls anyhow (you can always use the standard reply button to have all controls available). At least on my computer using IE, the page loading speed has improved. Perhaps we'll make it a user option to customize the quick reply box, which would allow you to disable it completely to further increase loading speeds. Feedback appreciated.

01-20-2009, 10:21 AM	#41
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Hi WDE, yes we've already implemented the changes. At this point, I don't think there is anything we can do other to make it an option for users to turn off the Quick Reply all together (assuming this is the culprit, which I believe it is).

01-20-2009, 10:28 AM	#43
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Yeah I will. Apparently it doesn't even matter, since WDE seems to be having the same issues. Honestly, I am stunned by this problem. It is IE-only, and occurs randomly. My guess is it has to do with various factors, like, how fast your connection is, how fast the page loads, and how fast IE initializes the Javascript for the reply box. If things take too long, IE wouldn't jump the the proper anchor link. Stupid IE.