New version of DRM removal tools ("DeDRM") - Page 39

shalym · 03-21-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by latepaul

Thanks. I guess I'll have to upgrade wine.

I use K4PC to download and de-drm as it's more convenient than plugging the Kindle in all the time.

Incidentally, in terms of functionality, I had to switch to list view a couple of versions back because in cover view the covers were not displaying and I couldn't identify the new book. Be nice if that works again.

Why don't you just download for transfer via USB? I've always done it that way, and it works fine no matter what OS you use, and you don't need to worry about the version of Kindle For PC, either. Of course, you do need to have an actual Kindle device registered to your account to do this, but you can get a used older model for very cheap--you just have to make sure that it is able to be registered with Amazon.

Shari

Purple Lady · 03-21-2016, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Later versions of ADE support a new encryption method which has not been "cracked", and there is a possibility that at some point bookstores will start serving books that use the new, stronger, encryption to devices with later version of ADE.

Personally it's not something I'd lose any sleep over.

So you don't care that you wouldn't be able to read on your device or app of choice? You can't read an ebook with the new drm on eink readers, and the only app I know of that you can use the new drm with is Bluefire. And once you download a book with the new drm you can never get a copy of that book with the old drm.

Edit: Kobo ereaders can use the new drm https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=3284828

HarryT · 03-21-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

So you don't care that you wouldn't be able to read on your device or app of choice?

I didn't say that I don't care; I said that I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I would be (very) mildly irritated. I already have an ebook library sufficient to vastly out-last any reasonable expectation of my projected lifetime.

latepaul · 03-21-2016, 11:22 AM

Honestly I forgot that option existed. I think I used it once when I got my original Kindle and I've never used it from de-drm purposes.

I'll try it, since even wine 1.9.6 is playing hard-to-get with the K4PC installer.

Purple Lady · 03-21-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I didn't say that I don't care; I said that I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I would be (very) mildly irritated. I already have an ebook library sufficient to vastly out-last any reasonable expectation of my projected lifetime.

I also have an ebook library sufficient to outlast my lifetime, but would be extremely upset to buy a book I couldn't read. So I take steps to be sure that won't happen.

HarryT · 03-21-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I also have an ebook library sufficient to outlast my lifetime, but would be extremely upset to buy a book I couldn't read. So I take steps to be sure that won't happen.

But it wouldn't be a book that I couldn't read. I have sufficient devices to allow me to read books in any commonly-encountered format: Apple, Android and Amazon devices.

eschwartz · 03-21-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by latepaul

I like the idea of rolling distros but whenever I've tried to use them in practice it's ended up being lots of work. Mind you I haven't tried for a couple of years.

Of course you're going to tell me it's easy-peasy and you never have any problems with bleeding-edge software etc. :P

Alternatively, you will either invest in fixing little problems as they come along, or big problems once every few years on a dist-upgrade.

I also think it is incredibly annoying to try to build software on Ubuntu, due to complicated arrangements for development headers, etc. -- plus the build system seems very confusing.

And here you are, trying to circumvent Ubuntu's aging software sources by building it yourself.

Purple Lady · 03-21-2016, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

But it wouldn't be a book that I couldn't read. I have sufficient devices to allow me to read books in any commonly-encountered format: Apple, Android and Amazon devices.

You would have to read it using the Bluefire app only on your Android devices as far as I know. I don't like how that app displays at all. And Amazon wouldn't do something so stupid as give you a book with new drm that it's devices can't use. I don't know anything about Apple to know if you could read a book with new drm.

HarryT · 03-21-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

You would have to read it using the Bluefire app only on your Android devices as far as I know. I don't like how that app displays at all. And Amazon wouldn't do something so stupid as give you a book with new drm that it's devices can't use. I don't know anything about Apple to know if you could read a book with new drm.

Given that I already use different devices to read different types of books, this is really not something that causes me great concern. Should it ever become a problem in the future, I shall reconsider my options at that time. It's just not something I can get worked up about.

latepaul · 03-21-2016, 11:37 AM

I think I'll demur on further discussion of the merits of various Linux distros as:

a) it's getting less and less relevant to this thread
b) it's increasingly niche
c) it probably deserves to be in P&R

Thanks to shalym for the download-to-USB suggestion - that worked.

Difflugia · 03-21-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

wine 1.6 was released in 2013, wasn't it?

1.6.2 was the stable version into 2014. I noticed that you're on 1.9.6, but 1.8 has only been considered stable for a couple of months.

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

I don't understand people who use non-rolling-release distros with horribly out-of-date software.

I don't suppose it surprises you to know that my philosophy is opposite yours. I don't upgrade until I need to, mainly because I hate having to figure out how to disable all of the new features that were added since the last time. I'm pretty much the opposite of "early adopter."

eschwartz · 03-21-2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by latepaul

I think I'll demur on further discussion of the merits of various Linux distros as:

a) it's getting less and less relevant to this thread
b) it's increasingly niche

Point.

And irrelevant, since you are apparently okay with using the USB download option.

(I will just make one quick mention -- winetricks references a bug that affects K4PC and warns "You may need to run with taskset -c 0 to avoid a libX11 crash". Might help you, might not -- you already have a solution, so...

)

latepaul · 03-21-2016, 12:27 PM

Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I do intend to try to resolve the wine/K4PC issue but it's less urgent as there's another way to do it.

GeoffR · 03-21-2016, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

So you don't care that you wouldn't be able to read on your device or app of choice? You can't read an ebook with the new drm on eink readers, and the only app I know of that you can use the new drm with is Bluefire. And once you download a book with the new drm you can never get a copy of that book with the old drm.

There are e-ink devices that can be used to read ebooks with Adobe's new DRM.

For example, Kobo e-ink readers have been able to read ebooks with the new DRM since firmware version 3.5.0, which was released in July 2014.

Purple Lady · 03-21-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffR

There are e-ink devices that can be used to read ebooks with Adobe's new DRM.

For example, Kobo e-ink readers have been able to read ebooks with the new DRM since firmware version 3.5.0, which was released in July 2014.

Thanks. I added this to my post.

03-21-2016, 11:37 AM	#580
latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,270 Karma: 10468300 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	I think I'll demur on further discussion of the merits of various Linux distros as: a) it's getting less and less relevant to this thread b) it's increasingly niche c) it probably deserves to be in P&R Thanks to shalym for the download-to-USB suggestion - that worked. Last edited by latepaul; 03-21-2016 at 11:48 AM. Reason: proper attribution

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03-21-2016, 11:22 AM	#574
latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,270 Karma: 10468300 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	Honestly I forgot that option existed. I think I used it once when I got my original Kindle and I've never used it from de-drm purposes. I'll try it, since even wine 1.9.6 is playing hard-to-get with the K4PC installer.

03-21-2016, 12:27 PM	#583
latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,270 Karma: 10468300 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I do intend to try to resolve the wine/K4PC issue but it's less urgent as there's another way to do it.