Seriousness Kids just don't cursive like they used to. - Page 2

WT Sharpe · 01-31-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

...And what does this portend for the future of handwriting recognition software?

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

...We won't need it?...

Ive got to admit that since I discovered Swype, I've used my handwriting apps far less.

WT Sharpe · 01-31-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John K

This calls to mind the US Marine Navajo Code talkers of WWII fame. They simply used their ancient spoken language to send messages over the radio. The Japanese code breakers were totally bewildered.

I'm imagining some high tech future despotic government forces fighting resistance guerrillas and unable to make any sense of the hand written notes being sent via homing pigeons.

I've heard of teenagers using hi-pitched sounds to convey messages back and forth that older adults can't hear.

Revenge is sweet.

Cinisajoy · 01-31-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I've heard of teenagers using hi-pitched sounds to convey messages back and forth that older adults can't hear.

Revenge is sweet.

Oh a new version of pig Latin or jive.
Can we spot the one that started school in 1972?

Greg Anos · 01-31-2016, 04:36 PM

Warped humor time...

Is there a good cursive/handwriting font?

That'd be fun on the screen...

meeera · 01-31-2016, 10:29 PM

Kids here are taught cursive, and are generally fluent in it by high school. I can't much see the point in over-emphasising it at the expense of more useful learning areas, and I see nothing wrong with printing for the small amounts of writing required in most jobs/professions these days. In my experience printing tends to be more legible, which can only be a plus.

(When I say 'in my experience' - I'm mostly talking about the experience of trying to read notes written by doctors, nurses and allied health people educated in the 1940s-1970s. It was always a pleasure to come across an entry in printing rather than cursive. No, we didn't all have copperplate cursive back in the good old days.)

WT Sharpe · 02-01-2016, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by meeera

Kids here are taught cursive, and are generally fluent in it by high school....

My 15 year old grandson tells me that most of the kids in his high school are lucky to be able to write their own names. He says that many can't even do that and most can't read cursive at all.

pshrynk · 02-02-2016, 12:26 PM

My cursive really sucks. But that has more to do with being a doctor than anything else. The lowest grade I ever got on anything was a "D" in fourth grade in handwriting.

badgoodDeb · 02-02-2016, 12:59 PM

My worst grades were always in Physical Education (aka gym).

PS As a doctor, aren't you, like, TRAINED in how to write poorly?

ATDrake · 02-02-2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Warped humor time...

Is there a good cursive/handwriting font?

That'd be fun on the screen...

The League of Movable Type offers League Script #1 as a free open-source font with advanced typography features which on my Mac, at least, shows up as joined Palmer-style cursive.

As for my own handwriting, I think the only reason why it hasn't deteriorated entirely is because I occasionally try to use the built-in handwriting recognition on the Mac, and there's nothing like having to teach (and correct!) a computer as to what you were trying to get it to do to train you to do it more-or-less consistently and understandably. Also, sometimes I attempt calligraphy, though the kallos part of that word-formation is very sadly inapplicable.

JSWolf · 02-02-2016, 01:54 PM

When I went to school, if you cursived, you got sent to the Prinicipal's office.

Cinisajoy · 02-02-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

When I went to school, if you cursived, you got sent to the Prinicipal's office.

If your father cursived the principal, you got in school suspension.

Greg Anos · 02-02-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

My worst grades were always in Physical Education (aka gym).

PS As a doctor, aren't you, like, TRAINED in how to write poorly?

No, it just comes naturally from all the hurried note-taking...

wodin · 02-02-2016, 08:17 PM

In ye olden days when I was in the Navy, and undergoing a ship's overhaul in the shipyard I had to sign hundreds of documents each day. I soon learned that if they can't read the signature they didn't know who to blame.

meeera · 02-02-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

My cursive really sucks. But that has more to do with being a doctor than anything else.

You don't have to have poor handwriting as a doctor. Unless it's caused by some medical condition, it's a choice you make. I chose to have good handwriting because I am a doctor: it was important that my notes and prescriptions be legible.

pshrynk · 02-03-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

My worst grades were always in Physical Education (aka gym).

PS As a doctor, aren't you, like, TRAINED in how to write poorly?

Natural talent...

01-31-2016, 10:29 PM	#20
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	Kids here are taught cursive, and are generally fluent in it by high school. I can't much see the point in over-emphasising it at the expense of more useful learning areas, and I see nothing wrong with printing for the small amounts of writing required in most jobs/professions these days. In my experience printing tends to be more legible, which can only be a plus. (When I say 'in my experience' - I'm mostly talking about the experience of trying to read notes written by doctors, nurses and allied health people educated in the 1940s-1970s. It was always a pleasure to come across an entry in printing rather than cursive. No, we didn't all have copperplate cursive back in the good old days.) Last edited by meeera; 01-31-2016 at 10:32 PM.

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