Kobo Aura H2O and the use of a dictionary

[Percivale]

Dear owners of H2O

Could you elucidate on the use of a dicionary in this model?

I am still a learner of English.
If I come across an unknown word while reading, I should press long the word and will see the pop-up with its dictionary definition. However, I read that Kobo dictionaries do not recognise conjugated forms of words.
Therefore, when there is a word with e.g. plural -s ending or in past tense form - no definiton can appear.

Am I right?
What do you think about the functionality of the English dicionary.
Is it true that it is much less comfortable than in Kindle PW?

I will be very grateful for any feedback

[Desdinova]

A long press of measurements gave me the definition of measurement.
Required gave me the definition for require.

So, expected behaviour.

I've no argument with the dictionary on it

[Desdinova]

https://www.kobo.com/help/en-US/arti...%20Touch%202.0

[Percivale]

Originally Posted by Desdinova

A long press of measurements gave me the definition of measurement.
Required gave me the definition for require.

So, expected behaviour.

I've no argument with the dictionary on it

Thank you for your answer

Is it possible to install one's own dictionary or all those definitions come only from a default Kobos' English dictionary?

[oren64]

As a heavy user of a dictionary there are few thing that i don't like.

-If a phrase shows as "word-word" it douse not show the definition, despite that there is definition to phrase "word word".

-If I mark more than one word and the phrase don't existing in dictionary, the popup-dict does not appear, and i can't check if there definition in other dictionary .

-If kobo can add a dictionary option in search ( in book,wikipidia, google, dictionary), that I can see all dictionary pages at once.

[Desdinova]

Originally Posted by Percivale

Thank you for your answer

Is it possible to install one's own dictionary or all those definitions come only from a default Kobos' English dictionary?

As far as I know you cannot install an alternative dictionary, but its never let me down.

[Desdinova]

Originally Posted by oren64

As a heavy user of a dictionary there are few thing that i don't like.

-If a phrase shows as "word-word" it douse not show the definition, despite that there is definition to phrase "word word".

-If I mark more than one word and the phrase don't existing in dictionary, the popup-dict does not appear, and i can't check if there definition in other dictionary .

-If kobo can add a dictionary option in search ( in book,wikipidia, google, dictionary), that I can see all dictionary pages at once.

You can search the dictionary from reading settings.

[Desdinova]

Just found this:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=232883

;_)

"Hi, I am Alberto Pettarin, the creator of Penelope, a tool for creating/merging/converting dictionaries, including the Kobo format.

Since I am overloaded by requests like "can you convert this dictionary X for my Kobo?", I start this thread to collect links to custom dictionaries for Kobo eReaders.

Please respect the copyright laws, and NEVER EVER post about converted dictionaries that infringe them. (Also, do not attempt at mailing me asking for converting copyrighted material, I will not help you on that.)

Instructions on how to install a custom dictionary on your Kobo can be found in the README of the GitHub repo: https://github.com/pettarin/penelope"

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by oren64

As a heavy user of a dictionary there are few thing that i don't like.

-If a phrase shows as "word-word" it douse not show the definition, despite that there is definition to phrase "word word".

-If I mark more than one word and the phrase don't existing in dictionary, the popup-dict does not appear, and i can't check if there definition in other dictionary .

-If kobo can add a dictionary option in search ( in book,wikipidia, google, dictionary), that I can see all dictionary pages at once.

With recent firmware, use the "in book" search. When that starts, you can change what is searched from the drop-down at the top right. The default when started like this is "Current Read", but you can change to "Dictionary".

[Percivale]

Thank You for all valuable answers
To make things clear:
-It is possible to add new dictionaries.

-BUT is it possible to set such a dictionary as a default one??

-it is not possible to check the meaning of a phrasal verb since the dictionary doesn’t recognize more than one word at a time? Correct?

-If come across a word which is not a typical lexical item but rather some scientific, biological etc. term - is it possible to look it up in Wikipedia in Kobo?

Is Kindle PW much better as far as dictionary possibilities are concerned?

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by Percivale

Thank You for all valuable answers
To make things clear:
-It is possible to add new dictionaries.

Strictly, no. The firmware supports a list of dictionaries. You cannot add extra, but people here have worked out ways to replace a dictionary.

-BUT is it possible to set such a dictionary as a default one??

The dictionary chosen will depend on the the language set in the book. If none, it will use the interface language. But, you can change the dictionary for a book and it will be remembered whenever you read that book.

-it is not possible to check the meaning of a phrasal verb since the dictionary doesn’t recognize more than one word at a time? Correct?

You can look up multiple words, but it the dictionary has to contain them. I have no idea how many there are in the supplied dictionaries. In fact, the only one I know of is "Buffalo Soldier"*.

-If come across a word which is not a typical lexical item but rather some scientific, biological etc. term - is it possible to look it up in Wikipedia in Kobo?

You can do a Wikipedia or Google search of any selected text in a book.

Is Kindle PW much better as far as dictionary possibilities are concerned?

Everybody says the supplied dictionaries in a Kindle are better than the Kobo. I don't have a Kindle to compare. For English, Kobo uses a Merriam-Webster dictionary. I believe it is the smallest of their electronic dictionaries.

* And Bob Marley has taken up residence in my brain for the rest of the day.

[Ken Maltby]

Originally Posted by Percivale

Thank You for all valuable answers
To make things clear:
-It is possible to add new dictionaries.

-BUT is it possible to set such a dictionary as a default one??

-it is not possible to check the meaning of a phrasal verb since the dictionary doesn’t recognize more than one word at a time? Correct?

-If come across a word which is not a typical lexical item but rather some scientific, biological etc. term - is it possible to look it up in Wikipedia in Kobo?

Is Kindle PW much better as far as dictionary possibilities are concerned?

If you use the add-on reader KOReader you can add dictionaries, set a default, select and find multi-word phrases defined, and pass the selected word(s) to Wikipedia.

Luck;
Ken

[Percivale]

everybody

[Percivale]

Originally Posted by Desdinova

A long press of measurements gave me the definition of measurement.
Required gave me the definition for require.

So, expected behaviour.

I've no argument with the dictionary on it

Unfortunately the default dictionary as well as the princeton wordnet do not recognise some words with -ing endings.
For example: flouncing, scrutinizing

However, you can find these words in their base form in those dictionaries

The search engine in firmware is not effective

Is the only solution to move to Koreader?

[Ken Maltby]

Originally Posted by Percivale

Unfortunately the default dictionary as well as the princeton wordnet do not recognise some words with -ing endings.
For example: flouncing, scrutinizing

However, you can find these words in their base form in those dictionaries

The search engine in firmware is not effective

Is the only solution to move to Koreader?

Koreader launched with tshering's new Kobo Start Menu 8, should have no impact on the stock Kobo software on your device. You can use both, as you wish. The same with Sergey's Coolreader port. An install guide.

Luck;
Ken