Questions for new Iliad owners! - Page 2

Riocaz · 07-12-2006, 12:45 PM

The travelhub isn't the same as the travel charger according to their accessories in the webshop Tribble.

But they have a "travel" charger which doesn't have a UK plug type pictured...

*I would _hope_ so too, but until I see it, I won't be convinced*

tribble · 07-12-2006, 01:20 PM

I guess you will have to send CommanderROR a picture of your sockets then, so he knows, wether the appropriate plug is in the box

Riocaz · 07-12-2006, 01:39 PM

This type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:G_plug.png#file

b_k · 07-12-2006, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FGFuzaxx

Hmm... I am no Lawyer and english is not my native tongue, but this does not look GPLish, or am I wrong?:
....

Yes, i have seen that to. But there remains one problem for Irex:
If it is indeed running Linux, it is GPL licensed, and they can not change that. GPL allows you to internally use your modified software without publishing the sources, but as soon as the binary software is public (like in the Iliad being sold to someone who is not from Irex ;-) ), you are forced to publish the sources. And in Germany and i think in other countries too, the GPL is already acknowledged as a valid software license. Don't have the articles yet, but just try a quick google for "netfilter" and "gpl violation". (most home routers are running on a Linux OS)

But, IANAL.

arivero · 07-12-2006, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_k

Yes, i have seen that to. But there remains one problem for Irex:
If it is indeed running Linux, it is GPL licensed, and they can not change that. GPL allows you to internally use your modified software without publishing the sources, but as soon as the binary software is public (like in the Iliad being sold to someone who is not from Irex ;-) ), you are forced to publish the sources. And in Germany and i think in other countries too, the GPL is already acknowledged as a valid software license. Don't have the articles yet, but just try a quick google for "netfilter" and "gpl violation". (most home routers are running on a Linux OS)

But, IANAL.

Some fineprint: they are not forced to publish the source of all the software running under the OS, only the modifications to the OS. Particulartly they are forced to publish the modifications of the kernel even if they are loaded as modules. Even Sony complies with this requeriment.

The application launcher can be a propietary application, and the same about the pdf reader, if they do not use GPL'd code. Also some GNU libraries can be linked dinamically against propietary applications.

DHer · 07-12-2006, 02:28 PM

please refrain from annoying iRex till we got our UPS tracking numbers

(Note to the anonymous iRex guy out there and reading this: could you please comment on the GPL story?)

b_k · 07-12-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arivero

Some fineprint: they are not forced to publish the source of all the software running under the OS, only the modifications to the OS. Particulartly they are forced to publish the modifications of the kernel even if they are loaded as modules. Even Sony complies with this requeriment.

The application launcher can be a propietary application, and the same about the pdf reader, if they do not use GPL'd code. Also some GNU libraries can be linked dinamically against propietary applications.

You are right. Should have pointed that out myself, sorry. I'm not that "only software with source is good", i don't care, if i have to install a closed source program on my router to make it support WPA-Encryption.

One Question about the libraries: you mean those licensed by LGPL, or am i wrong (again)?

NatCh · 07-12-2006, 03:34 PM

I'd like to know a number on the battery capacity, in mAh, I mean. Perhaps it'll be buried in the manual somewhere....

Or maybe someone has found this somewhere already, and could share.

tribble · 07-12-2006, 03:43 PM

I asked for that information and sent an email to iRex, but no answer so far. Ill post it, when and if i have it.

CommanderROR · 07-12-2006, 04:14 PM

Thanks for helping with the information gathering Tribble...^^

NatCh · 07-12-2006, 04:16 PM

you guys rock -- thanks!

tribble · 07-13-2006, 04:00 AM

Battery size of the iLiad is 1100 mAh. At least, thats the answer i got from iRex.

CommanderROR · 07-13-2006, 04:00 AM

Ok...the plugs are all in the box...so no worries there.
the charger automatically selects the correct input voltage I guess because I didn't fina a switch.
Yep...there is a little 110-240V sign on the bottom of the charger.

everything is looking VERY good so far.
Software version 2.4

Riocaz · 07-13-2006, 04:16 AM

woot, but I don't see a 3 pin plug in your photo.

Oh well, it's all of £4 to but a European to UK adaptor

As long as the charger works on 240v thats the main thing.

tribble · 07-13-2006, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riocaz

woot, but I don't see a 3 pin plug in your photo.

You actually dont need a 3 pin plug. The third pin is only an additional ground. Not really necessary with many devices.

07-12-2006, 01:39 PM	#18
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	This type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:G_plug.png#file Last edited by Riocaz; 07-12-2006 at 01:45 PM.

07-12-2006, 03:34 PM	#23
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Battery Capacity Number? I'd like to know a number on the battery capacity, in mAh, I mean. Perhaps it'll be buried in the manual somewhere.... Or maybe someone has found this somewhere already, and could share.

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07-12-2006, 12:45 PM	#16
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	The travelhub isn't the same as the travel charger according to their accessories in the webshop Tribble. But they have a "travel" charger which doesn't have a UK plug type pictured... I would _hope_ so too, but until I see it, I won't be convinced

07-12-2006, 01:20 PM	#17
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	I guess you will have to send CommanderROR a picture of your sockets then, so he knows, wether the appropriate plug is in the box

07-12-2006, 02:28 PM	#21
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	please refrain from annoying iRex till we got our UPS tracking numbers (Note to the anonymous iRex guy out there and reading this: could you please comment on the GPL story?)

07-12-2006, 03:43 PM	#24
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	I asked for that information and sent an email to iRex, but no answer so far. Ill post it, when and if i have it.

07-12-2006, 04:14 PM	#25
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	Thanks for helping with the information gathering Tribble...^^

07-12-2006, 04:16 PM	#26
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	you guys rock -- thanks!

07-13-2006, 04:00 AM	#27
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	Battery size of the iLiad is 1100 mAh. At least, thats the answer i got from iRex.

07-13-2006, 04:16 AM	#29
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	woot, but I don't see a 3 pin plug in your photo. Oh well, it's all of £4 to but a European to UK adaptor As long as the charger works on 240v thats the main thing.