PW Gen 1 updates?

fotyc · 06-20-2015, 05:45 PM

The last software update for the first gen Paperwhite seems to be 5.4.4.2 while the second gen is up over 5.6. Does anybody happen to know if we'll get any more updates for the first gen, or have they pretty much dropped us? Just wondering, as folks here seem to know a lot! I guess it's not possible to put the second gen updates onto a first gen PW?

HarryT · 06-20-2015, 05:49 PM

Unlikely there'll be more updates for the PW1. Amazon do, however, sometimes surprise us!

No, you can't run PW2 firmware on a PW1.

JSWolf · 06-20-2015, 06:28 PM

I would hope that Amazon would bring out the new typesetting features for currently selling Kindles and include the PW1.

HarryT · 06-20-2015, 06:36 PM

PW2, Voyage and Basic Kindle yes, definitely. PW1, very unlikely.

Doitsu · 06-20-2015, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fotyc

Does anybody happen to know if we'll get any more updates for the first gen, or have they pretty much dropped us?

I don't know whether Amazon will release more updates for the PW1, however, on the plus side, you could jailbreak your PW1, install KOReader and read ePubs and PDF files on your PW1 or you could install a font hack, if you don't like the default fonts. If you're interested in hyphenation, there's a Calibre plugin for that that doesn't require a jailbreak.

(Voyage and PW3 owners can no longer install jailbreaks without hardware modifications.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would hope that Amazon would bring out the new typesetting features for currently selling Kindles and include the PW1.

The "new typsetting features" wouldn't make much of a difference, since the new Bookerly font actually looks worse on the PW2/PW1 than the default Caecilia font.

Barbara1955 · 06-20-2015, 09:17 PM

I still get Updates on my K3 ... never say never! Could happen

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 12:37 AM

There was one K3 update to resolve serious security issues, IIRC -- fw3.4.1 -- and absolutely no new features or standard bugfixes were included. The K3 will NOT receive updates as a matter of course, nor will any other no-longer-selling device. (Amazon typically seems to provide at most one last update to their no-longer-sold models before dropping them for good.)
Obviously Amazon ensures those devices still work with the bookstore.

Barbara1955 · 06-21-2015, 12:55 AM

Yes but that was only 6 months ago & 18 months since they sold the Last K3 new batch. It did more than just Security I know I noticed a change the Font I use became Darker easier to see!

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 01:13 AM

No longer sold -- maybe not the best way of putting it. Occasionally Amazon has a sale of old stock, e.g. the reappearing DX.

I meant to distinguish abandoned models like the PW1 and earlier from the PW2 which is still a "current device" despite being succeeded (kind-of-but-not-really) by the Voyage.

Anyway, as I said, the K3 update involved very minimal changes. I am not aware of any changes to the text rendering, although I suppose there could've been coincidental interactions with the intended changes.

howyoudoin · 06-21-2015, 04:21 AM

The text on the K3 did improve. I remember connecting to wifi sometime around November 2013 after having been off the grid for three months or so, and the default caecilia font had changed to a slightly narrower and weightier version.

Barbara1955 · 06-21-2015, 06:01 AM

the DX they are selling are USED! Don't come with any warranties ...which is why I gave up on them.

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 10:02 AM

They were selling old DXs that were were most likely held back for use in fulfilling warranties...

GERGE · 06-21-2015, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

The "new typsetting features" wouldn't make much of a difference, since the new Bookerly font actually looks worse on the PW2/PW1 than the default Caecilia font.

That may be because it isn't released for them yet. iOS and Fire releases aren't the same thing.

We will see how good (or bad) it is 10 days or so later. I, for one, am very excited to see the design choices Dalton Maag made between the formats.

JSWolf · 06-21-2015, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

No longer sold -- maybe not the best way of putting it. Occasionally Amazon has a sale of old stock, e.g. the reappearing DX.

Sold via the marketplace and used. There are no new DX for sale.

The DX is done. The current stock of used DX are not worth the price.

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 07:21 PM

They have done it before and it might theoretically show up again. But whatever.

06-20-2015, 05:45 PM	#1
fotyc Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Baltimore Device: Kindle Paperwhite	PW Gen 1 updates? The last software update for the first gen Paperwhite seems to be 5.4.4.2 while the second gen is up over 5.6. Does anybody happen to know if we'll get any more updates for the first gen, or have they pretty much dropped us? Just wondering, as folks here seem to know a lot! I guess it's not possible to put the second gen updates onto a first gen PW?

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Unlikely there'll be more updates for the PW1. Amazon do, however, sometimes surprise us! No, you can't run PW2 firmware on a PW1.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,782 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I would hope that Amazon would bring out the new typesetting features for currently selling Kindles and include the PW1.

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Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	I still get Updates on my K3 ... never say never! Could happen

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eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	There was one K3 update to resolve serious security issues, IIRC -- fw3.4.1 -- and absolutely no new features or standard bugfixes were included. The K3 will NOT receive updates as a matter of course, nor will any other no-longer-selling device. (Amazon typically seems to provide at most one last update to their no-longer-sold models before dropping them for good.) Obviously Amazon ensures those devices still work with the bookstore.

06-21-2015, 12:55 AM	#8
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Yes but that was only 6 months ago & 18 months since they sold the Last K3 new batch. It did more than just Security I know I noticed a change the Font I use became Darker easier to see!

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eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	No longer sold -- maybe not the best way of putting it. Occasionally Amazon has a sale of old stock, e.g. the reappearing DX. I meant to distinguish abandoned models like the PW1 and earlier from the PW2 which is still a "current device" despite being succeeded (kind-of-but-not-really) by the Voyage. Anyway, as I said, the K3 update involved very minimal changes. I am not aware of any changes to the text rendering, although I suppose there could've been coincidental interactions with the intended changes.

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howyoudoin how YOU doin? Posts: 1,100 Karma: 7371047 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: India Device: Kindle Keyboard, iPad Pro 10.5”, Kobo Aura H2O, Kobo Libra 2	The text on the K3 did improve. I remember connecting to wifi sometime around November 2013 after having been off the grid for three months or so, and the default caecilia font had changed to a slightly narrower and weightier version.

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Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	the DX they are selling are USED! Don't come with any warranties ...which is why I gave up on them.

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eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	They were selling old DXs that were were most likely held back for use in fulfilling warranties...

06-21-2015, 07:21 PM	#15
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	They have done it before and it might theoretically show up again. But whatever.