|  01-09-2015, 02:13 PM | #61 | 
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			Those were quite good, but I would definitely recommend the Empire Trilogy. Upsettingly, there seems to be no ebook version available anywhere (except pirate sites, as usual   ). | 
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|  01-09-2015, 02:28 PM | #62 | 
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			Are you sure ? Is the first one "Daughter of the Empire" ? Ebook is on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Daughter-Empir...=UTF8&sr=&qid= | 
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|  01-09-2015, 02:41 PM | #63 | 
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			C.S. Friedman is a women, as far as I know   I've read the Magister Trilogy and am in the second book of the Coldfire Trilogy right now. I can recommend her  The Coldfire Trilogy up to this point is more interesting, but it is one of this sci fi/fantasy things, if that concerns you. Nonetheless I think both, ASOIF and Malazan are even better but also much much bigger. So if the question is still "What to read first?" I would recommend them. If the Question is "What series should I absolutly read?" Friedman would belong to that list (with a lot more series of course, Lynch, Lawrence, Abercrombie come to my mind for example). There are so many good series out there today   | 
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|  01-09-2015, 02:47 PM | #64 | 
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|  01-09-2015, 02:50 PM | #65 | 
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			I have to second the Friedman recommendation. Her Coldfire trilogy is like nothing else I've ever read, and is fantastic. I hesitate to describe it much, I think that knowing too much might spoil some of the fun of reading it. As a follow-up on my earlier post: Tad Williams - he's best known for the Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy, which he is following up with another series. It's fairly standard (but very well done) young-man-on-epic-quest fantasy. I didn't enjoy his Otherland series as much but that's science fiction anyway.  Melanie Rawn - The Dragon Prince trilogy, and it's follow-up Dragon Star trilogy. Lots of small-scale politics rather than the epic scale of some of the current series. Stay away from her Exiles "trilogy" - due to some health issues she has not written the last book in the past 15 years. I'll add one more with a little hesitation. I don't see Katherine Kurtz discussed much in fantasy conversations, but her Deryni series is one of the longest running series around (started in 1970, she just published book #16). She's got a degree in medieval history, and her world is so close to ours that it may as well be an alternate history "if there were a psychically/magically gifted race". That can be either good or bad. My hesitation in recommending is that I find the first trilogy a little tedious, but it needs to be read to understand the other books, which are among my favorites. | 
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|  01-09-2015, 02:55 PM | #66 | 
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			I got through the first Deryni trilogy, but stalled shortly thereafter.  But this was almost thirty years ago...
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|  01-09-2015, 03:04 PM | #67 | |
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 I've read those, too, when the first 3 (?) came out in the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series, edited by Lin Carter. This must have been about 40 years ago! | |
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|  01-09-2015, 03:05 PM | #68 | |
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|  01-09-2015, 03:51 PM | #69 | |
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 The Chronicles of the Deryni are the first three, they are in ebook The Legends of Camber of Culdi are the next three, they are not in ebook. (more than a bit dark) The Histories of King Kelson are the next three, not in ebook The Heirs of Saint Camber, not in ebook (really dark) The Childe Morgan series, in ebook There are some stand alone books and short stories as well. | |
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|  01-09-2015, 03:52 PM | #70 | |
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|  01-09-2015, 04:43 PM | #71 | |
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  and I am practically positive it didn't used to be there. In any event, it certainly isn't available in the U.S. Awesome, that means you can buy it.   | |
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|  01-17-2015, 05:57 PM | #72 | ||||
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 Other possible series to consider: 1) L. E. Modesitt's "Recluce" series. Lots of entries but most can be read as standalones. A lot of people might argue there's too much description and talking and not enough action and that if you have read one (he is very profilic--lots of series) you've read them all. Which to a certain extent I would agree with. But I think some of the ideas he writes about are interesting. I enjoy his methodical (for others: slow) approach. 2) Barbara Hambly. Probably primarily known for her Benjamin January mystery series, but before that she wrote a lot of fantasy. Many involve people from our world being transferred to another world (okay with me). I particularly like the Darwath Trilogy, the Sun Wolf books and the Windrose Chronicles. These read rather quickly and are entertaining. 3) The Long Price Quartet series by Daniel Abraham. Another darker, more complex series but there are only four books and they aren't huge. 4) David Eddings' Belgariad series. Nothing too heavy here, but engaging characters and lots of humor. Highly entertaining. Perhaps too "light" for some, but sometimes that works perfectly. For me at least. 5) Jeffrey Barlough's Western Lights series. Combination of fantasy/mystery/horror. Ongoing but can be read as stand alones. Unique and kind of weird. Sometimes I'm not sure what I think of the series. But are any available as ebooks? I don't think so. I could go on (and on and on and on ..... ) but will stop. | ||||
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|  01-17-2015, 06:35 PM | #73 | 
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			I just picked up a novella, "Dominion," by C.S. Friedman and really liked it. So much so, that I purchased the first volume of the Coldfire Trilogy, "Black Sun Rising." I'll believe I'll start reading this VERY soon. | 
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|  01-17-2015, 08:15 PM | #74 | 
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			I recommend anything by Friedman... she is one of my favorite authors.
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|  01-18-2015, 07:25 AM | #75 | 
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			Jack Vance's Dying Earth series is something I love. I read the Cugel stories when they appeared in F&SF, and then later when they appeared as an Ace paperback. A wonderful book, along with The Dying Earth. I love just about all of Jack Vance's work, but I never could afford that Integrated (?) set that came out a few years back. | 
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