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Old 11-05-2014, 11:07 PM   #121
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I'm wondering if I should get a refund, and then pay the extra for an Earl if I still want to buy one in a few years time (when they are finally available).

I'm starting to wonder if they have their software act together, seeing how they clearly don't have their hardware act together. And software is the key to making an eInk screen look good under Android.
Plus there's the fact that if you stay on as a backer, you'll receive your 30% or 15% lifetime discount from squigle as well. That alone has made me shrug my shoulders and just decide to wait it out.
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:36 AM   #122
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Kickstarter is an investment in a startup, not a purchase from a store.
For what it's worth, the last crowd sourced thing I contributed to that involved a Chinese mass production was also delayed several times, but they eventually succeeded and I got my item. Seems mass producing and importing goods always has surprising challenges to first timers....wait until they try to get these earls through customs!
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Old 11-06-2014, 01:28 PM   #124
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For what it's worth, the last crowd sourced thing I contributed to that involved a Chinese mass production was also delayed several times, but they eventually succeeded and I got my item. Seems mass producing and importing goods always has surprising challenges to first timers....wait until they try to get these earls through customs!
Earl was never on Kickstarter, it was crowdfunded by the company itself on their own website.
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Earl was never on Kickstarter, it was crowdfunded by the company itself on their own website.
Really? That's pretty impressive considering they didn't benefit from the press Kickstarter and Indigogo had been getting.
Any way, replace 'kickstarter' with 'crowd funding' and same same.
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:27 PM   #126
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Really? That's pretty impressive considering they didn't benefit from the press Kickstarter and Indigogo had been getting.
Any way, replace 'kickstarter' with 'crowd funding' and same same.
Actually I expected more out of an already established company than I would of a startup on kickstarter. From the very start there were long periods on no communications, forums being shutdown (they did eventually start them backup), broken promise after broken promise. All that and more led me to ask for my investment to be refunded.
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If they were an established company, why the crowd funding?
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If they were an established company, why the crowd funding?
as far as I understand it, it's only an established company in that they have a name and a staff. I believe EARL is the first product to be created, manufactured and sold by Squigle Inc.
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Kickstarter is an investment in a startup
Well, no. If you were investing in a startup, you could expect returns in the event they turned a profit. When you crowdfund, the most you'll ever get is the product itself (and/or any additional rewards they offer). It's not investment, just speculative consumerism.
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Well, no. If you were investing in a startup, you could expect returns in the event they turned a profit. When you crowdfund, the most you'll ever get is the product itself (and/or any additional rewards they offer). It's not investment, just speculative consumerism.
You're investing, and your potential return is the reward, and possibly other rewards or discounts in the future, and also in some cases, the reward of helping out an entreptenuer, or even society. It does not need to work like stocks and bonds to be an investment.
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There's a new video posted by EARL forum user ToddCady where he has a sit down with Jon from Squigle showcasing what's been developed so far. Hopefully this can put to bed some of the "vapourware" fears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktw-...ature=youtu.be

After watching the video, I was really impressed with both the flexible screen, and the refresh speed.
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Realy really cool. Can't wait...
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Actually you can. Wait, that is. Or rather, have to.
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jan 27 update up on the site. http://www.meetearl.com/updates/
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The problem with crowdsourcing hardware so far has been that people with great ideas have not had much experience in sourcing and getting the stuff manufactured. So it takes them time to iron out the problems.
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