B&N removed download option on all books in "My Nook" library

[Ken Maltby]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

This is not more secure. What this means is that people who are using "Barnes & Nobel Desktop Reader" or "Nook for PC" (desktop version) and have no clue about where there eBooks are stored cannot remove the DRM. Those that use the Windows 8 app are screwed. as that's a heaping pile of pain in the a$$ to be able to fix the eBooks to be able to strip the DRM.

All B&N is doing is trying to make it harder for customers to get at the eBooks to then be able to strip the DRM.

In Windows 7, it is pretty simple to find where the purchases are downloaded to. When you open Windows Explorer "Libraries" is selected and it is in the "Documents" library that "My Barnes & Noble eBooks" is listed, right along with "My Digital Editions" and "My Kindle Content". I don't use Windows 8, is it not this way with it setup like Windows 7?

It looks to me like it is pretty much the same as Adobe and Amazon, as far as where to find the files, not any more hidden.

Luck;
Ken

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Fbone

It's a shame. This whole ebook situation.

It is.
They're taking something very simple, cost effective (and very clearly a desired and sought out commodity) and just f'ing it up all around. People want to throw money at your electrons ... again, and again, and again. Stop discouraging them from doing so.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by Fbone

But don't you need a Kindle device to do that? I don't have a "download & transfer via USB" option.

It should be easy to find a used one cheap. It only has to work well enough to get it registered and get its serial number.

[Ken Maltby]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

It should be easy to find a used one cheap. It only has to work well enough to get it registered and get its serial number.

Can't you just get a copy delivered to your "Kindle for PC 2"? No physical Kindle required.
( Seems almost the same as at Barnes&Noble, to me.)

Luck;
Ken

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Ken Maltby

Can't you just get a copy delivered to your "Kindle for PC 2"? No physical Kindle required.
( Seems almost the same as at Barnes&Noble, to me.)

Luck;
Ken

Yes, you can have books delivered wirelessly to devices and apps alike. But "download and transfer via USB" is available only for Kindle devices (unless the book's already drm-free of course).

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Yes, you can have books delivered wirelessly to devices and apps alike. But "download and transfer via USB" is available only for Kindle devices (unless the book's already drm-free of course).

Is that another clue to what is DRM free at Amazon? (For those that don't have Kindles.)

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

Is that another clue to what is DRM free at Amazon? (For those that don't have Kindles.)

Sorry, no. I probably mispoke. I don't think that option is available from the MYK page for drm-free books if you don't have a Kindle. I just meant that once you have the drm-free file, you can transfer it willy-nilly. You're probably in the same boat, truth be told, with a drm-free book if you don't have a Kindle, no Wifi, and no computer with the Kindle reading app installed.

[charmian]

Has anyone explained why it is "more secure" to do this? It's good that the loopholes are open, but if this supposed security measure can be circumvented by B&N's own apps or a script, it doesn't look like B&N is taking its own security very seriously.

In any event perhaps it's good that they took this move now, because isn't Nook's future totally up in the air? It may inspire some to stop buying, or to future-proof their libraries. Nook was supposed to be sold or spun off in early 2015, so there is not much time before that happens.

[induna]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Yes, you can have books delivered wirelessly to devices and apps alike. But "download and transfer via USB" is available only for Kindle devices (unless the book's already drm-free of course).

Yes, but if you have the Kindle application for your PC or MAC, you can download the files from within the application to your computer, and then de-drm and import them into Calibre. It's really harder to describe than it is to do. Once done, the books are yours to do with as you please. You do not need to own a Kindle to download Amazon books to your computer.

[mbovenka]

Originally Posted by induna

You do not need to own a Kindle to download Amazon books to your computer.

There are some books (magazines in particular) that won't download to Kindle for PC, only to a physical Kindle or Kindle for Android/iOS.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Blossom

I think the best thing we can do about this is to let our voice be heard I wouldn't call and do it or email it needs to be public like their Nook Facebook page and Twitter pages. Make sure you let them know they've lost you as a customer. If some media could carry the story the better as they did this quietly without warning.

I've been thinking about this. If this was some other store it wouldn't matter but this is B&N not some small ebook store. It's always been Kindle vs Nook. If we let them get away with this then more stores could follow this pattern to where you will be left with app or device reading only.

Right now you can sideload but I am sure this is only a step before they fix it to where you no longer can.

If you give the URL to your comment, I'll add mine to it.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

It should be easy to find a used one cheap. It only has to work well enough to get it registered and get its serial number.

I have an old, nearly dead K2 that I keep around exactly for that.
It used to be my mother's and I decided to keep it when I upgraded her to a Touch.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by induna

Yes, but if you have the Kindle application for your PC or MAC, you can download the files from within the application to your computer, and then de-drm and import them into Calibre. It's really harder to describe than it is to do. Once done, the books are yours to do with as you please. You do not need to own a Kindle to download Amazon books to your computer.

I would rather own a Kindle, which I use to read anyway, than infect any of my computers with something from microsoft or apple. I also do not want to futz around with WINE.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

I have an old, nearly dead K2 that I keep around exactly for that.
It used to be my mother's and I decided to keep it when I upgraded her to a Touch.

K2 also comes in handy in areas with Sprint coverage, but not ATT.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by induna

Yes, but if you have the Kindle application for your PC or MAC, you can download the files from within the application to your computer, and then de-drm and import them into Calibre. It's really harder to describe than it is to do. Once done, the books are yours to do with as you please. You do not need to own a Kindle to download Amazon books to your computer.

I know all that.

The thought experiment was getting your purchase on a device (or into an app) when all you have is a borrowed, internet-connected PC (that you don't/can't have Kindle for PC on--perhaps you're travelling/visiting), a usb cable and no Wifi. With a registered Kindle device, you can at least download the file for USB transfer using nothing but the browser. With no registered Kindle device in the same scenario, you're out of luck.

The same scenario with Nook (now that they've discontinued browser downloads), and you're completely out of luck.

Of course you're always good to go at home with all the necessary reader programs, your special greasemonkey/tampermonkey scripts installed, and Python with alf-scripts and/or calibre with alf-plugins.