"Apple is the next Microsoft"

[frahse]

CNET News

"Apple is the next Microsoft", analyst says

Barclays analyst Ben Reitzes says he just doesn't see growth in Cupertino's future, whether it's from a watch or a TV.
by Chris Matyszczyk
February 21, 2014 9:37 AM PST"

I guess Apple is now just another old "staid" under-performer, just hanging on like Sony, MS, AOL, and Yahoo.

See more at:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...-analyst-says/

[elcreative]

And I guess you can always ignore the last line of the article - One analyst says "perhaps." Another says "perhaps not." - after all we can always get another anti-Apple thread going Time for more popcorn folks... and... go!

[afv011]

Well, their growth has certainly stalled, at the current rate, this year they should expect flat or maybe even negative growth.

[joblack]

Originally Posted by afv011

Well, their growth has certainly stalled, at the current rate, this year they should expect flat or maybe even negative growth.

Sure, the great times for Apple are over. Android Tablets are better and no new technology at site.

[ApK]

Mini poll!
Now is the time to:

1. buy Apple stock.
2. sell off your Apple stock.

[Jessica Lares]

I am not worried for Apple. They are NOT the next Microsoft.

iPad sales have slowed, but so has the Kindle Fire. The difference is that the majority of iPads that were bought are still being used, while the majority of Kindle Fires ended up on eBay and/or broke and people upgraded to the Nexus 7, Galaxy Tabs, and others.

For every person that still owns and uses an iPad 1, there are probably 10 who have bought two or more Android tablets since then.

The same can be said for Macs and iPhones. There are more people with 2007/8 MacBook Pros than with Dell laptops from that same year. There are more people with the iPhone 4 (not 4S) than there are those still using a Samsung Galaxy S2.

And the same thing with iPods, which is why Apple recalled the Nano five years after the fact, and if anything else came up with the others, would probably be doing the same procedure now.

iOS 7 has received a lot of negative press, but at the end of the day, it's nowhere near the amount of hate Windows 8 has received. Android guys don't complain about KitKat, but the majority of them probably haven't even seen Jelly Bean.

[Graham]

Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

Android guys don't complain about KitKat, but the majority of them probably haven't even seen Jelly Bean.

In the interests of keeping the facts straight... a small majority have now seen Jelly Bean (it's at 61% at the moment):

http://developer.android.com/about/d...e=ausdroid.net

Good point about KitKat though. Very limited market penetration as yet.

Graham

[eschwartz]

Maybe the reason no one is upgrading their iPhone 4 is because they can't justify the expense? It is cheaper to buy a new Android than a new iPhone.

Same with PC/MacBook, a new PC costs $400-$600 but how many people are going to spend $1000+ on a new laptop until they have milked every last day out of the previous $1000+ purchase?

[ApK]

It's creepy that Jessica seems to know so much about the electronics in my house....

Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

iPad sales have slowed, but so has the Kindle Fire. The difference is that the majority of iPads that were bought are still being used, while the majority of Kindle Fires ended up on eBay and/or broke and people upgraded to the Nexus 7, Galaxy Tabs, and others.

True in our case. Our Fires are being replaced by other tablets, and if it wasn't for the fact that Amazon kept replacing them for us long after the warranty, all our Fires would have been out long ago. My mom, on the other hand, is using my sister's hand-me-down iPad 2.

The same can be said for Macs and iPhones. There are more people with 2007/8 MacBook Pros than with Dell laptops from that same year.

True for me as well. I just got a 2008 MBP, and while I do also have a similar vintage Dell desktop (what I'm typing on now) my Windows laptops of that era all went out via eBay.

Android guys don't complain about KitKat, but the majority of them probably haven't even seen Jelly Bean.

Jelly Bean has penetrated remarkably well, I think. The fragmentation has quite settled down. I'm pleased that all our current smartphones are slated for Kitkat supposedly. I don't like to upgrade frequently, and it seems that from now on devices will last through several versions of Android just like they last through several versions of iOS.

[pl001]

But Microsoft is still profitable and growing despite their recent mistakes in mobile and the PC downturn. This is because they are a highly diversified company.

If Apple ever sees the kind of downturn in mobile that Microsoft did, they will be done.

Any "analyst" who tries to make a connection between the two is not an analyst, they are a know-nothing blogger desperate for page hits.

[DiapDealer]

Just soze I understand: "negative growth" is what many might refer to as "shrinking," right?

[jgaiser]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Just soze I understand: "negative growth" is what many might refer to as "shrinking," right?

Youz a smart man....

[Jessica Lares]

You all are right about Jelly Bean. A lot of the low end phones still ship with ICS though.

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Maybe the reason no one is upgrading their iPhone 4 is because they can't justify the expense? It is cheaper to buy a new Android than a new iPhone.

Same with PC/MacBook, a new PC costs $400-$600 but how many people are going to spend $1000+ on a new laptop until they have milked every last day out of the previous $1000+ purchase?

I think it's more to do with the fact that they're happy with it, and it does everything they want. None of the very good Android phones are cheaper, they all start above or below the $199 contract price when they debut.

You shouldn't even be THINKING of buying a new computer every three years anyway. Whether it costs $400 or not. These aren't clothes, these are tools.

The reason that most people keep their Macs a long time is because they still work as well as they did when they were first bought. My first MacBook Pro ran OS X Tiger to Lion (that's 4 OS updates), and my current one can run down to Snow Leopard (again 4 OS updates, and it'll get the next two most likely).

The only thing I'll need in the next few years is probably more RAM and a new hard drive. The base specs are the same as the typical $899+ Windows machines, so it's future proof for a lot of the tech that will show up five years from now.

[arjaybe]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Just soze I understand: "negative growth" is what many might refer to as "shrinking," right?

You start talking about business and you end up talking that way.-)

[DiapDealer]

I'm losing negative weight!