|  01-23-2014, 11:05 AM | #16 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,033 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra | 
			
			Interesting results I_Macd, I would not have thought that Android would be that popular as an ereader.  I guess if I really want to be able to read ebooks on my phone I really need an android.  Out of curiosity what is the population size?  In experimental psychology we would call that the value of N.  Since users self register with mobile read there is no problem with randomizing the population.  Looks like the big four would be Kindle, Kobo, android and Sony.
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|  01-23-2014, 12:09 PM | #17 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | Quote: 
 The OS may not be as robust as others but the app ecosystem is as good as any. The only better option is Win8 because it can run Calibre natively. | |
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|  01-23-2014, 03:28 PM | #18 | |
| Ex-Helpdesk Junkie            Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only) | Quote: 
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|  01-23-2014, 04:23 PM | #19 | |
| Member            Posts: 20 Karma: 515570 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Palo Alto, California Usono Device: Kobo Arc and Aura HD, Kindle Keyboard, and DX | Quote: 
 For immersive reading, I go to e-ink devices (Kobo or Kindle). Two very different uses. | |
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|  01-23-2014, 07:05 PM | #20 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,576 Karma: 36389706 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Device: Samsung 54A, Kobo Libra H2O, Samsung S6 Lite | Quote: 
 And there are plenty of us that don't allow ourselves to get distracted by whatever else a tablet can do. If you want to read, all you have to do is turn off wifi, and put the machine in airplane mode and now what you have is a dedicated ereader. This is how I use my tablet and 99% of the time my Note 2 as well. I use my tv to watch shows & movies, and if I read magazines, I would use my pc for that. The only thing I will multi-task with my tablet/phone is with music. It comes in very handy when I'm stuck on the train with a screaming baby! I just put on my headphones crank up the volume & read my book in peace.   | |
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|  01-23-2014, 07:42 PM | #21 | |
| Grand Master of Flowers            Posts: 2,201 Karma: 8389072 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Naptown Device: Kindle PW, Kindle 3 (aka Keyboard), iPhone, iPad 3 (not for reading) | Quote: 
 MR readers aren't selected at random - they choose to join the site. And there's no reason to assume that they/we accurately reflect the e-book reader demographic. | |
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|  01-23-2014, 08:13 PM | #22 | |
| Hybrid reader            Posts: 161 Karma: 1132216 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2; Sony PRS-350 | Quote: 
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|  01-24-2014, 02:06 AM | #23 | |
| Member            Posts: 20 Karma: 515570 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Palo Alto, California Usono Device: Kobo Arc and Aura HD, Kindle Keyboard, and DX | 
				
				different roles for e-ink vs tablet?
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 I love my tablet. It is fast, flexible and displays color. Reading PDFs is a pleasure, not the headache it is on most e-readers. However, e-ink readers have characteristics which tablets are hard pressed to match. Battery recharging is barely an issue with e-ink readers whereas it is always on my mind with the tablet. I and many others are bothered by the bright tablet displays. I read for many hours a day and I welcome every opportunity to get away from the computer screen. Reading paper or e-ink relaxes me and lets me slip into the world of the book. So for me it's not a question of which is better. The challenge is to understand the different characteristics of each and take advantage of them. I suspect e-ink may be a niche market for hardcore readers, while Android will go merrily on its way to world domination. | |
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|  01-24-2014, 04:26 AM | #24 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 2,086 Karma: 14079267 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Almere, The Netherlands Device: Kobo Sage | Quote: 
 Another problem with tablets (for me anyway) is that I don't like the 16:9 aspect ratio for reading; it's too narrow. I tried my new phone (a 5" Huawei Ascend G700) for a short while, but went back to my Aura HD in a hurry. | |
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|  01-24-2014, 05:47 AM | #25 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | 
			
			A lot of hobbyist/enthusiasts are multiplatform buyers, demand more reading app controls than the vendor apps typically provide, and/or read more than just straight text ebooks (comics, magazines, etc). Those users are more likely to find solutions in the tablet world.
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|  01-24-2014, 06:03 AM | #26 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | |
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|  01-24-2014, 03:01 PM | #27 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,061 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos | 
			
			I did not see anyone company as "leading the way" in terms of innovations. B&N actually was the first with the light. What possible innovations, other than more lightweight, would we even want in an ereader? Anything you add, in terms of hardware, would add weight which none of us want. All I can think of is software related - I'd like to be able to have more control of the online cloud library. It's a nightmare when you have more than one person with access, wanting different genres of books. I can only do it using Calibre, but it is maddening since even the search doesn't always work (and it doesn't matter which - Amazon, B&N, Kobo). | 
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|  01-24-2014, 03:06 PM | #28 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 105 Karma: 9702 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Belgium Device: Kobo Libra 2 | 
			
			Actually, it surprises me that the Sony PRS-T3 doesn't have a frontlight. Are they gearing themselves towards those customers who do not desire a frontlit ereader? What is the reason behind this decision?
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|  01-24-2014, 04:46 PM | #29 | 
| I ♥ Calibre            Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2 | 
			
			As AnemicOak posted: "The Sony PRS-700 was the first IIRC. The Nook Glow was the first using an earlier version of the light guide tech used now." Sony's PRS-700 was from 2008 or something wasn't it? @ Aer - The fact that the PRS-700 was such a disaster (the tech for lighting ereaders wasn't good enough at that time) is possibly why Sony didn't try a frontlight with the T3. You know the saying, 'Once bitten, twice shy'? | 
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|  01-24-2014, 05:49 PM | #30 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 | Quote: 
 - Kobo - Sony - Apple iPad Mini and Google Nexus 7 (the split between the two is unknown to me), running an EPUB reader app. The Kindle is almost non-existent except for the people who import it on purpose, for varying reasons. Most people don't dare to buy one of the smaller brands such as Icarus, Bookeen, Boox, and so on; there will be people who do, but I've only once seen a reader that was not a Kobo, Sony or Kindle in the wild. (Not counting my own Bokeen in 2007.) You can basically only get them online. I've never seen any reader besides Kobo's and Sony's in retail stores; not where I live at least. The Nook doesn't exist here for all intents and purposes. I only know of one store that imports it, but very rarely sells them. It's always out of stock, so I think they import them on order. Last edited by Katsunami; 01-24-2014 at 06:34 PM. | |
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