Fans of Paper White 2 - Page 2

ElspethB · 11-01-2013, 09:14 PM

I was fortunate to have a really good PW1, which I used exclusively and quite heavily for more than a year. My first PW2 was too yellow and I returned it for another, which is less yellow. Overall, I prefer the PW2 because of the faster page turns, improved contrast, and the Page Flip. I hung onto my PW1 but I will probably give it to my mom who is has a K3.

Panda Rose · 11-02-2013, 01:42 AM

I have upgraded from a K3 to a PW2. I think their estimation and advertisement of 8 weeks between charging is very misleading. Since I read for perhaps an hour a day and have had to charge my PW 3 times in the 3 weeks I have had it, I'm very disappointed. I was also disappointed with customer services at Amazon UK, who were not prepared to replace it until I " insisted". I will take delivery of the new one on Tuesday. I'm not rushing to send my first one back until I have compared the 2 together.

dordale · 11-02-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda Rose

I have upgraded from a K3 to a PW2. I think their estimation and advertisement of 8 weeks between charging is very misleading. Since I read for perhaps an hour a day and have had to charge my PW 3 times in the 3 weeks I have had it, I'm very disappointed. I was also disappointed with customer services at Amazon UK, who were not prepared to replace it until I " insisted". I will take delivery of the new one on Tuesday. I'm not rushing to send my first one back until I have compared the 2 together.

Per Amazon's website, their estimate of 8 weeks is " based on a half hour of reading per day with wireless off and the light setting at 10.". So, if your reading an hour a day that cuts that in half--and if you leave wi-fi on, that'll cause quite a bit more battery drain. Also, when you first load books up on the reader, it'll use more battery--right after the books are uploaded on the PW, the reader goes through the books creating it's index and that will drain the battery some. I recently put about 250 book on my PW at one time (I know this isn't recommended), and my PW did finally index all the books, but it took it about 24 hours to finally complete it's indexing.

krazy4katz · 11-02-2013, 01:12 PM

I also think that the battery life should depend on the font setting (and therefore how often you turn pages), how often you use the dictionary, using the new features etc. Do you read more at night than during the day? How does that affect the light setting? It is difficult to generalize those personal habits to come up with a standard. Perhaps you can compare to your last reader, its standard and whether your habits have changed in a way that would improve or lessen the battery life.

sirmaru · 11-02-2013, 02:06 PM

I took two cycles and recorded reading session times for the Paperwhite 2013 in a spreadsheet leaving WiFi on all the time and a light setting of 15 out of 24. I got 13:29 in one cycle and 13:56 in another cycle. I charged when the PW message at 15% charge was issued.

However, now I turn WiFi off every night when I shut down my PC and don't turn it on until the first reading session.

max99 · 11-02-2013, 04:29 PM

i much prefer my PW2 to PW1. it's a significant upgrade. the light is now a seamless part of the device, you no longer scrutinise it like you did PW1 due to its uniformity. this is the device amazon wanted to launch last year but failed to. the improvement in the light has also markedly improved contrast.

the software upgrades are also significant. having bookmark previews and page flipping now closes the gap between e-readers and real books in my opinion. i can virtually hold pages by bookmarking so i can flip back and forth. the page scanning also gives a nice representation of how far through the book i am physically, in addition to letting me jump around and preview other chapters.

Victoria · 11-02-2013, 09:39 PM

I prefer the PW 2 - especially for the warm screen colour. I'm also very pleased with the software, and its ability to finally show page numbers on the main screen.

However, I prefer the PW1 bookmark method, with its one step, instead PW2's two step process. I find the new process frustrating, as it seems to get caught in a loop, requiring multiple corrections.

max99 · 11-03-2013, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Victoria

I prefer the PW 2 - especially for the warm screen colour. I'm also very pleased with the software, especially the ability to finally show page numbers on the main screen.

However, I prefer the PW1 bookmark method however, with its one step, instead PW2's two step process. I find the new process frustrating, as it seems to get caught in a loop, requiring multiple corrections.

i'm surprised you prefer the old bookmarking method. seeing a window of the page i bookmarked helps me differentiate between them. with the old system i could never remember where a bookmark would take me.

pressing the screen one more time is a small price to pay for absolute clarity of where i'm going to jump to, imo. also having all the bookmarks accessed from the top right is surely cutting a step?

Victoria · 11-03-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by max99

i'm surprised you prefer the old bookmarking method. seeing a window of the page i bookmarked helps me differentiate between them. with the old system i could never remember where a bookmark would take me.

pressing the screen one more time is a small price to pay for absolute clarity of where i'm going to jump to, imo. also having all the bookmarks accessed from the top right is surely cutting a step?

Definitely feeling dumb!

I didn't realize it had a purpose, because I've only ever used one bookmark, which I delete when I start reading again.

Thank you very much for explaining the additional functionality. You're right - It opens a whole new door of possibilities - and another reason to prefer the PW 2

HarryT · 11-03-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Victoria

Definitely feeling dumb!

I didn't realize it had a purpose, because I've only ever used one bookmark, which I delete when I start reading again.

Why do you set a bookmark for that purpose? The Kindle remembers your reading position automatically.

Victoria · 11-03-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why do you set a bookmark for that purpose? The Kindle remembers your reading position automatically.

It does that very well. However, I've lost my spot a few times, while relying on the back key, when flipping through a book for an earlier passage. So now I use a bookmark for extra insurance. Then delete it when I get back to home base.

I'm excited about the possibilities of the new feature, especially for non-fiction and references, as I need to refer back more frequently.

dordale · 11-03-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Victoria

It does that very well. However, I've lost my spot a few times, while relying on the back key, when flipping through a book for an earlier passage. So now I use a bookmark for extra insurance. Then delete it when I get back to home base.

I'm excited about the possibilities of the new feature, especially for non-fiction and references, as I need to refer back more frequently.

Victoria--The PW2's new "page flip" feature can be helpful in this area--I love it. When you're in page flip mode, the PW2 will remember your current page and open up a separate window that allows you to skim backward and forward while still keeping your current postion. I use it quite a bit--and think it's one of the best things about the PW2.

Here's a link to Amazon's description of page flip mode:
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/image...357997677_.jpg

sirmaru · 11-03-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why do you set a bookmark for that purpose? The Kindle remembers your reading position automatically.

When one reads books like a Bible, one should keep two bookmarks, one for the OT and another for the NT. Normal syncing only keeps the latest page read which won't work in that case.

Plus, with books related to history and biography, one may jump forward and backward for word searches and information and the actual reading position can only be held with a bookmark.

One may even leave bookmarks to quickly locate important notes and / or highlights without using the "Go To" feature to scan all of them.

Syncing does sync all one's bookmarks in addition to latest page read.

HarryT · 11-03-2013, 01:01 PM

I know what bookmarks are used for, thanks

. I was asking the previous poster a specific question.

nynaevelan · 11-03-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dordale

Victoria--The PW2's new "page flip" feature can be helpful in this area--I love it. When you're in page flip mode, the PW2 will remember your current page and open up a separate window that allows you to skim backward and forward while still keeping your current postion. I use it quite a bit--and think it's one of the best things about the PW2.

Here's a link to Amazon's description of page flip mode:
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/image...357997677_.jpg

I agree, it is proving most helpful.

11-02-2013, 09:39 PM	#22
Victoria Wizard Posts: 1,017 Karma: 19767610 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Device: ipad, Kindle PW, Kobo Clara; iphone 7	I prefer the PW 2 - especially for the warm screen colour. I'm also very pleased with the software, and its ability to finally show page numbers on the main screen. However, I prefer the PW1 bookmark method, with its one step, instead PW2's two step process. I find the new process frustrating, as it seems to get caught in a loop, requiring multiple corrections. Last edited by Victoria; 11-03-2013 at 09:30 AM.

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11-01-2013, 09:14 PM	#16
ElspethB Passionate Reader Posts: 276 Karma: 1829152 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Central Jersey, USA Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, Kobo Clara HD, Fire HD 8, Voyage, Oasis 3, PW5	I was fortunate to have a really good PW1, which I used exclusively and quite heavily for more than a year. My first PW2 was too yellow and I returned it for another, which is less yellow. Overall, I prefer the PW2 because of the faster page turns, improved contrast, and the Page Flip. I hung onto my PW1 but I will probably give it to my mom who is has a K3.

11-02-2013, 01:42 AM	#17
Panda Rose Zealot Posts: 120 Karma: 204936 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Device: Sony Prs505, Kindle 3, iPhone4	I have upgraded from a K3 to a PW2. I think their estimation and advertisement of 8 weeks between charging is very misleading. Since I read for perhaps an hour a day and have had to charge my PW 3 times in the 3 weeks I have had it, I'm very disappointed. I was also disappointed with customer services at Amazon UK, who were not prepared to replace it until I " insisted". I will take delivery of the new one on Tuesday. I'm not rushing to send my first one back until I have compared the 2 together.

11-02-2013, 01:12 PM	#19
krazy4katz Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 1552656 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: [Kindle 1, Kindle 3 (KK)], Kindle Voyage, iPad Pro	I also think that the battery life should depend on the font setting (and therefore how often you turn pages), how often you use the dictionary, using the new features etc. Do you read more at night than during the day? How does that affect the light setting? It is difficult to generalize those personal habits to come up with a standard. Perhaps you can compare to your last reader, its standard and whether your habits have changed in a way that would improve or lessen the battery life.

11-02-2013, 02:06 PM	#20
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	I took two cycles and recorded reading session times for the Paperwhite 2013 in a spreadsheet leaving WiFi on all the time and a light setting of 15 out of 24. I got 13:29 in one cycle and 13:56 in another cycle. I charged when the PW message at 15% charge was issued. However, now I turn WiFi off every night when I shut down my PC and don't turn it on until the first reading session.

11-02-2013, 04:29 PM	#21
max99 Addict Posts: 201 Karma: 1300000 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle DXG, PW	i much prefer my PW2 to PW1. it's a significant upgrade. the light is now a seamless part of the device, you no longer scrutinise it like you did PW1 due to its uniformity. this is the device amazon wanted to launch last year but failed to. the improvement in the light has also markedly improved contrast. the software upgrades are also significant. having bookmark previews and page flipping now closes the gap between e-readers and real books in my opinion. i can virtually hold pages by bookmarking so i can flip back and forth. the page scanning also gives a nice representation of how far through the book i am physically, in addition to letting me jump around and preview other chapters.

11-03-2013, 01:01 PM	#29
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I know what bookmarks are used for, thanks . I was asking the previous poster a specific question.