PRS-T3 A few software issues

hansl · 10-23-2013, 11:11 AM

Hi,
so, I have my new T3S for a while, the euphoria is gone and I'm struggling with the Reader software on both sides of the USB cable and (after some googling, of course) hope for your assistance:

On the PC: Switching off syncing with the T3S in Reader for PC causes most of my books to be removed from the T3S. Wow?? So I stopped using Reader for PC and download my books via Wifi or copy them directly to the READER drive. Is the latter a good idea?

On the T3S (without PC connection) I cannot delete books. Only remove them from a collection but they are still in the default book collection. So I have to connect the T3S to a PC and delete the books from the READER drive. 2nd wow??

While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function?

As far as I see, sorting notes alphabetically works only across all books and cannot be limited to a book or collection, which would be what I want when I create notes for use as index entries for my current book or series. 3rd wow?? A stunningly useless sorting function. I'd rather call it merge.

I'm really impressed by the software quality after more than 5 years of development.
Do you have similar issues, maybe on a T2, or any ideas on how to overcome mine?

Thanks in advance,
hansl

HarryT · 10-23-2013, 11:28 AM

Copying books directly to the T3 is absolutely fine. No need to use the Reader software.

Personally I'd suggest maintaining your book library in Calibre, and letting Calibre add and delete books for you. That's what I do with all my reading devices.

Shopaholic · 10-23-2013, 06:48 PM

Once you've synced the device to the software you cannot delete the book. That's the way the system is set up. I hate it too. I don't mind buying my books through the software but I either put them on manually, through Calibre or download on the device itself. I NEVER use sync. I'd say start from scratch. Connect the device to the PC, remove all the books through the Sony software so nothing is synced.

Make sure you have it set up to NOT automatically open & sync with the Sony software when you connect your device to your PC and then you can drag and drop at will. I'm also in agreement with Harry's statement of using Calibre to put your books on.

speakingtohe · 10-23-2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansl

Hi,
so, I have my new T3S for a while, the euphoria is gone and I'm struggling with the Reader software on both sides of the USB cable and (after some googling, of course) hope for your assistance:

On the PC: Switching off syncing with the T3S in Reader for PC causes most of my books to be removed from the T3S. Wow?? So I stopped using Reader for PC and download my books via Wifi or copy them directly to the READER drive. Is the latter a good idea?

On the T3S (without PC connection) I cannot delete books. Only remove them from a collection but they are still in the default book collection. So I have to connect the T3S to a PC and delete the books from the READER drive. 2nd wow??

While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function?

As far as I see, sorting notes alphabetically works only across all books and cannot be limited to a book or collection, which would be what I want when I create notes for use as index entries for my current book or series. 3rd wow?? A stunningly useless sorting function. I'd rather call it merge.

I'm really impressed by the software quality after more than 5 years of development.
Do you have similar issues, maybe on a T2, or any ideas on how to overcome mine?

Thanks in advance,
hansl

I am pretty sure you can delete the books from the book list, same as T1 or T2.

Shopaholic · 10-23-2013, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

I am pretty sure you can delete the books from the book list, same as T1 or T2.

Not on the device itself if it's been synced with the Sony software you can't.

speakingtohe · 10-23-2013, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

Not on the device itself if it's been synced with the Sony software you can't.

Not doubting you, but is there really no way to delete a book on the device using the device software? Seems totally weird and not at all like the other Sony readers.

Helen

JSWolf · 10-23-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Not doubting you, but is there really no way to delete a book on the device using the device software? Seems totally weird and not at all like the other Sony readers.

Helen

It is like the T1 and T2 when using Reader for PC. Use Calibre and you have a lot more control over what you can do.

Shopaholic · 10-23-2013, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Not doubting you, but is there really no way to delete a book on the device using the device software? Seems totally weird and not at all like the other Sony readers.

Helen

It depends entirely on how the book was put on the device. Again, if it was synced with the Sony software, nope. You can't delete it on the device itself. Major PITA! This nonsense started with the T1.

If you downloaded it via wifi on the device, yes. If you connect the device to the computer and drag & drop it onto the device, yes. If you put it on via Calibre, yes.

4691mls · 10-23-2013, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

It depends entirely on how the book was put on the device. Again, if it was synced with the Sony software, nope. You can't delete it on the device itself. Major PITA! This nonsense started with the T1.

If you downloaded it via wifi on the device, yes. If you connect the device to the computer and drag & drop it onto the device, yes. If you put it on via Calibre, yes.

I use the Reader software and have not had a problem deleting synced books from my PRS-T1.

rjcroy · 10-24-2013, 01:47 AM

Hopefully I will have my PRS-T3 next week. (Brought to me by a friend visiting England). I intend to only use Adobe Digital Editions to manage the books on the T3, just as I have been doing with my Kobo Touch.

I will check out these items you have raised and report back with my experience.

yts06mgr · 10-24-2013, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shopaholic

It depends entirely on how the book was put on the device. Again, if it was synced with the Sony software, nope. You can't delete it on the device itself. Major PITA! This nonsense started with the T1.

If you downloaded it via wifi on the device, yes. If you connect the device to the computer and drag & drop it onto the device, yes. If you put it on via Calibre, yes.

I never had any problem deleting books on T2 and T3 or using Reader for PC application.

If you purchased any book from the Reader Store, then the purchased records will be shown on the library, but you cannot obviously delete them. Otherwise, you won't be able to download again from the Reader Store because the purchase records (indicated with an arrow pointing downward on the thumbnail) are only trigger points allowing you to download again whether you use T3 or Reader for PC.

This would be the only explanation for some people who are confused with actual ebooks already being downloaded vs purchase record indicators meaning books are ready to download. The latter cannot be deleted unless the purchased books are being downloaded and deleted if you do not wish to have them in your local storage.

yts06mgr · 10-24-2013, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansl

Hi,
so, I have my new T3S for a while, the euphoria is gone and I'm struggling with the Reader software on both sides of the USB cable and (after some googling, of course) hope for your assistance:

On the PC: Switching off syncing with the T3S in Reader for PC causes most of my books to be removed from the T3S. Wow?? So I stopped using Reader for PC and download my books via Wifi or copy them directly to the READER drive. Is the latter a good idea?

On the T3S (without PC connection) I cannot delete books. Only remove them from a collection but they are still in the default book collection. So I have to connect the T3S to a PC and delete the books from the READER drive. 2nd wow??

While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function?

As far as I see, sorting notes alphabetically works only across all books and cannot be limited to a book or collection, which would be what I want when I create notes for use as index entries for my current book or series. 3rd wow?? A stunningly useless sorting function. I'd rather call it merge.

I'm really impressed by the software quality after more than 5 years of development.
Do you have similar issues, maybe on a T2, or any ideas on how to overcome mine?

Thanks in advance,
hansl

For your question, "While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function?",

The dictionary function cannot be turned off, but you could change the font size to change the location of the particular passage you wish to annotate.

hansl · 10-24-2013, 05:17 AM

I thank you all for your thoughts and workarounds.
Regarding deletion of books, I fear that I need to stick to the "start from scratch" approach by Shopaholics. I really can't delete any book from the device when it is not plugged to my PC. Even wifi downloaded books. Maybe I produced an inconsistent state on my reader after sync on and off several times.
I'll try Calibre as management tool.

Another issue is that when I don't use Reader for PC I might lose the capability to backup notes together with the respective books. I'll check that too.

Thanks again,
hansl

AnotherCat · 10-24-2013, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansl

While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function?

Try selecting the word and then move your finger to the right or left and the dictionary should disappear. If it is only the single word you want to add the note to rather than a phrase, then after the dictionary disappears move your finger back so just the word remains highlighted.

carpetmojo · 10-25-2013, 04:33 AM

As a Sony reader fan of reasonably long standing, with a fair few devices to play with, and an admirer and satisfied user of said devices, my advice would be ..... lose the Sony software, it's junk !

Stick with Calibre, and make life so much simpler for yourself !

(And pick up some "Cleaning Tools" while you're at it and expand your horizons ............ )

10-23-2013, 11:11 AM	#1
hansl Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 113786 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Device: Sony PRS-T3S, CoolReader on 4'' Android phone	A few software issues Hi, so, I have my new T3S for a while, the euphoria is gone and I'm struggling with the Reader software on both sides of the USB cable and (after some googling, of course) hope for your assistance: On the PC: Switching off syncing with the T3S in Reader for PC causes most of my books to be removed from the T3S. Wow?? So I stopped using Reader for PC and download my books via Wifi or copy them directly to the READER drive. Is the latter a good idea? On the T3S (without PC connection) I cannot delete books. Only remove them from a collection but they are still in the default book collection. So I have to connect the T3S to a PC and delete the books from the READER drive. 2nd wow?? While reading, when I create a note at the bottom of a page, the popup dictionary entry covers the note text, so I cannot edit the selection. Minor nuisance. Is it possible to switch off the dictionary function? As far as I see, sorting notes alphabetically works only across all books and cannot be limited to a book or collection, which would be what I want when I create notes for use as index entries for my current book or series. 3rd wow?? A stunningly useless sorting function. I'd rather call it merge. I'm really impressed by the software quality after more than 5 years of development. Do you have similar issues, maybe on a T2, or any ideas on how to overcome mine? Thanks in advance, hansl

10-24-2013, 05:17 AM	#13
hansl Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 113786 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Device: Sony PRS-T3S, CoolReader on 4'' Android phone	I thank you all for your thoughts and workarounds. Regarding deletion of books, I fear that I need to stick to the "start from scratch" approach by Shopaholics. I really can't delete any book from the device when it is not plugged to my PC. Even wifi downloaded books. Maybe I produced an inconsistent state on my reader after sync on and off several times. I'll try Calibre as management tool. Another issue is that when I don't use Reader for PC I might lose the capability to backup notes together with the respective books. I'll check that too. Thanks again, hansl Last edited by hansl; 10-24-2013 at 05:36 AM.

10-25-2013, 04:33 AM	#15
carpetmojo Wizard Posts: 3,117 Karma: 9269999 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: UK Device: Sony- T3, PRS650, 350, T1/2/3, Paperwhite, Fire 8.9,Samsung Tab S 10.5	Lose your limitations ....... As a Sony reader fan of reasonably long standing, with a fair few devices to play with, and an admirer and satisfied user of said devices, my advice would be ..... lose the Sony software, it's junk ! Stick with Calibre, and make life so much simpler for yourself ! (And pick up some "Cleaning Tools" while you're at it and expand your horizons ............ )

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Copying books directly to the T3 is absolutely fine. No need to use the Reader software. Personally I'd suggest maintaining your book library in Calibre, and letting Calibre add and delete books for you. That's what I do with all my reading devices.

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Shopaholic Cockatoo Mom! Posts: 1,509 Karma: 1841741 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: PW4, Kobo: A1, Clara, Libra 2, iPad Pro 11, iPad Mini	Once you've synced the device to the software you cannot delete the book. That's the way the system is set up. I hate it too. I don't mind buying my books through the software but I either put them on manually, through Calibre or download on the device itself. I NEVER use sync. I'd say start from scratch. Connect the device to the PC, remove all the books through the Sony software so nothing is synced. Make sure you have it set up to NOT automatically open & sync with the Sony software when you connect your device to your PC and then you can drag and drop at will. I'm also in agreement with Harry's statement of using Calibre to put your books on.

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