|  10-04-2013, 10:17 AM | #1 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,879 Karma: 29145056 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Device: kindle | 
				
				The Invisible Library
			 
			
			Around 2001 a website of this name surfaced, containing fictitious books found in other books.  The site ran for a number of years before finally, as websites will, dying. I thought it was a fun idea at the time, collected a few imaginary books from novels on my own shelves, and emailed them in, but (cause and effect? I hope not) the site faded away soon after without my small contribution appearing. We all know some of these books in the Invisible Library: the various books of Oolon Colluphid which are mentioned in The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, and "The Joy of Snackes" by Gytha Ogg in "Maskerade" (an R-rated cookbook). Not to mention "The Necrotelecomnicon" in various places in the Discworld Saga. But did you know that Cohen the Barbarian wrote a book (most likely ghost-written, let's be honest: Cohen probably couldn't sign his own name let alone spell it): In Just Seven Dayes I Will Make You a Barbarian Hero! (in Sourcery). I still keep finding these imaginary books in all sorts of unlikely places. Arthur W Upfield, not noted for humour in his novels, had his Detective Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte (undercover as a writer in "An Author Bites the Dust") suddenly having to invent a book he claimed he was writing, and produced the in an instant the title "I Walk on My Toes". A doubly invisible book, since even in Upfield's universe, it was never written. Other Authors of invisible works, so to speak, are naturally Ariadne Oliver in various Agatha Christie novels, and Rose M Banks (wife of Bingo Little) in Wodehouse's Jeeves and Bertie stories. I can't help thinking that modern Fantasy writing, which I rarely read, must produce a bumper crop of invisible books. I don't doubt for a minute that several members of this forum have created their own. | 
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|  10-04-2013, 10:52 AM | #2 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | 
			
			Yea I have to start cataloging the books I created in my books... has a recursive problem there    | 
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|  10-04-2013, 12:13 PM | #3 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			And there's the famous "Encyclopedia Galactica" in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, it even gets its own Wikipedia page. I have been fooled sometimes, discovering that a referenced book is not invisible at all, just something I hadn't heard of before. ETA: And what do you call it in something like "The World According to Garp" by John Irving, which provides parts of various books like "The Pension Grillparzer" ? Translucent? (At some more suitable hour than 2:15am I may be able to remember some of Irving's other invisible books.) Last edited by gmw; 10-04-2013 at 12:17 PM. | 
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|  10-04-2013, 12:58 PM | #4 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			There are also books based in puns. i.e. Basic car repair by Russ T. Heap and so forth.    | 
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|  10-05-2013, 07:10 AM | #5 | 
| The Dank Side of the Moon            Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6 | 
			
			Yellow River by I. P. Freely.....
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|  10-05-2013, 07:44 AM | #6 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			Kenny, is it still invisible if it's appeared on The Simpsons?  (Well, I know that author has, not so sure about the book.) From "Dune" by Frank Herbert we get: "Manual of Maud'Dib" and "Mud'Dib, Family Commentaries" ... and many more ... by the Princess Irulan. Back to John Irving for a moment ... I think I'd have to re-read the books and note down the titles as they went past. Vydorscope mentioned recursion, there's a certain amount of that going on in some of Irving's books, with writer characters writing writer characters. I've just finished re-reading "Hyperion" by Dan Simmons, and that presents another interesting case. Internally it speaks of the "Hyperion Cantos" by Martin Silenus, but then Simmons' series also gets called the "Hyperion Cantos", and it's all influenced by the real, but incomplete, "Hyperion" poem by John Keats. It gets difficult to extract the visible from the invisible. (ETA: It does have a real invisible book - did I just say that? - "The Dying Earth" by Martin Silenus.) Last edited by gmw; 10-05-2013 at 07:46 AM. | 
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|  10-05-2013, 07:51 AM | #7 | 
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|  10-05-2013, 08:04 AM | #8 | 
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			Cool topic. I recently saw a similar one on YouTube, something to do with fictional bands in movies.  What about in the Ender's Game series, didn't Ender write a treatise of some sort in one of the later stories? | 
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|  10-05-2013, 08:07 AM | #9 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,862 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles | 
			
			This is rather the opposite of the topic, but I can't tell you how pleased I was to find that The Mysteries of Udolpho was a real book. It's still on the TBR...
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|  10-05-2013, 11:10 AM | #10 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			Looks interesting.  Did you get that from Northanger Abbey, or somewhere else?  (I haven't read Northanger Abbey, but Wikipedia says Austen "satirises it", and I was trying to work out whether that meant Austen didn't like it, or whether she was just having fun.)
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|  10-05-2013, 11:22 AM | #11 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			In "Speaker for the Dead" we find out that Ender wrote two books, "The Hive Queen" and "The Hegemon", under the name "Speaker for the Dead" and that started the tradition of having speakers for the dead.
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|  10-05-2013, 01:10 PM | #12 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			There is of course also the Necronomicon which was written by the mad Arab Abdul Alhazred. It was first mentioned in Lovecraft's 1924 short story "The Hound."
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|  10-05-2013, 10:18 PM | #13 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,879 Karma: 29145056 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Device: kindle | 
			
			In the front of every one of the Flashman novels is a Who's Who entry for Sir Harry Flashman, and it includes the titles of several books written by Flashy. Unfortunately I no longer have any of my old Flashman paperbacks, so can't quote them here. Anthony Boucher, a crime and SF writer/editor among other things, wrote a splendid comic crime novel called "Rocket to the Morque" (1942). The plot revolves around the literary legacy of the late Fowler Foulkes, a noted author of the 1920s whose hero was a Sherlock Holmes-esque character called Dr Derringer. Several genuine SF writers/editors appear in it, lightly disguised: Heinlein, John W Campbell and others, and a full bibliography of Fowler Foulkes' novels appears at the front of the book as an extract from another imaginary book: "Who's What in the USA". Among the titles are "The Purple Light", "The Researches of Dr Derringer", "Beneath the Abyss", "The Crimson Prism" and numerous others. And how about the best-known reference work in history, created by Carl Barks, who produced the Scrooge McDuck/Donald Duck/Huey Dewey and Louie adventure comics for Disney: "The Junior Woodchuck Manual", which must surely contain more material than Wikipedia, and yet fit in your pocket... | 
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|  10-06-2013, 03:35 AM | #14 | |
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|  10-07-2013, 11:10 PM | #15 | 
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			All of the Dune series (both the original series by Frank Herbert, and the "prequels" by his son Brian Herbert  & Kevin J. Anderson).  Each chapter opens with an epigraph. There are dozens of books and scholarly treatises cited, I would't try to list them all here.
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