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http://search.overdrive.com/ti/b2301...book#searchLib The book you mentioned also seems destined for a long bestseller run. Simon and Schuster could have idiots for executives, but, more likely, is making a research-based business decision concerning cannibalization. As a library eBook patron, I wish it wasn't so hard to borrow Simon and Schuster titles (few available, and AFAIK only through the inconvenient 3M Cloud Library). But I can't say they are wrong. They need -- and I, as a nonfiction reader, need -- long-running bestsellers like Steve Jobs to make up for other outstanding titles which don't earn back the advance. Quote:
If libraries become as convenient as bookstores, author incomes, already low, will plummet. I don't see any way to get around that, or reason to blame publishers for trying to prevent it. ______________ * In my defense here, if one is needed, no library just gives the borrowing public what it wants. If it did, the magazine and video sections would be filled with pornography! |
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09-05-2013, 09:10 PM | #93 |
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The last thing I read, which was admittedly quite a while ago, had S&S and Macmillan wanting a system where they get paid each time a book is loaned. I believe both have dipped there toes into the current systems to at least try then out since then, but that may still be their stance. It may not necessarily be an unreasonable stance altogether, but with libraries having relatively fixed annual budgets it might be hard for them to manage.
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Not everywhere. Most of the recent-release paper books I check out of my library are paperbacks, some of them mass market paperbacks. Poking back through my recent loans, the exceptions are primarily cookbooks and some larger graphic novels.
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09-06-2013, 03:21 AM | #95 | |
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Also in Sweden the libraries have to pay $3 per loan of an ebook. |
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You can still get library-bound books though not as many as you used to.
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I have no problem with that system, provided the fee is reasonable, resembles the oft-quoted cost of loaning a physical book, and can be passed on to the patron. Many libraries charge to borrow DVDs, so it is not as though a pay-per-loan system is incompatible with the library system. Users who do not want to pay the fee should still be able to borrow the physical book.
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I wouldn't pay a fee every time I check out a library book, if that's what you all are talking about. I mean the whole point of the library is so you don't have to pay, aside from the cost of the library card. Might as well buy used/cheap books if I have to pay anyway.
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09-06-2013, 12:59 PM | #101 | |
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Put another way: if they're charging $1 per sign out, they're charging more than I pay for many used books. If they're charging $2 per sign out, they're charging more than I pay for most used books. And that's not including the books that I pick up for free. |
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Said opinion boiling down to "Wah, wah! I don't want to pay someone for what they own." Then don't buy it or get it through other means. Libraries, being all proper and above board, have to obey the law.
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I find it odd that you consider an ebook/pbook comparison invalid, but an ebook/car comparison perfectly valid. Especially when they are used in completely different ways, and I don't mean reading vs driving. A book in any format, is typically* used once by a user, unlike cars, which might be used multiple times by the same user. Books are also less commodified than rental cars. An individual is unlikely to go to the car rental place and specify exactly which make and model they want (unless it's high end of course), rather, they select a type, eg medium-sized, and the car rental place will give you what *they* choose. However with books, it's unlikely that an individual will go to a library and say they want something from genre X, and leave it up to the librarian to choose something for them. If you want to compare business models, then consider the considerable "wastage" of having books idling on shelves, even electronic ones. In the transport industry (to which car rental companies belong), such idling indicates vast overstocking and the solution would be to massively cull the excess. I am guessing you would not be supportive of such an action by libraries? In short, I disagree that a car rental company is a valid comparison to a library. * I think in general the number of times a book is re-read by the same person is tiny in comparison to the number to once-only reads. I read a lot, and I re-read my favourites, but the proportion of books that I re-read compared to those I don't is vanishingly small. |
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Perhaps an option to make a donation when checking out a book would be acceptable to library users. |
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