|  09-04-2013, 07:29 PM | #16 | 
| Illiterate            Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro | 
			
			I'm old enough to remember the first digital watches. They were made by Pulsar, who incidentally is still in business, and had bright red LED displays. In order to conserve battery life you had to push a button to light up the display. What a PITA that was, just to see what time it was was a two handed operation, and sometimes two hands just weren’t available, as my right hand was sometimes busy doing something else. So here we go again, if we learn anything from history it’s that we don’t! There is no way an OLED screen can be always on and have that tiny battery last all day. So what’s the answer? Pebble has an always on B/W e-paper display and Qualcomm TOQ has an always on color Mirasol display. As I said before, the pebble is half the price of the Gear, and the TOQ is expected to come in at about the same price. I believe I’ll be waiting for the dust to settle. | 
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|  09-04-2013, 07:31 PM | #17 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,851 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | 
			
			I won't get a smartwatch until they have a matching smartring. Before I exert the energy to look my watch, I want to know if the incoming is worth it. A ring could tell me if it's a text, email, voice, pic, etc. If it's something I want to see, I'll flip my wrist to look at it. Then I'll decide if it's important enough for me to really expend the energy to reach all the way into my pocket to retrieve my phone.  ...technology is so exhausting   | 
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|  09-04-2013, 07:39 PM | #18 | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:02 PM | #20 | |
| Fanatic            Posts: 583 Karma: 3549018 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan Device: Kindle Scribe, Kindle PW (10th & 11th gen); Fire HD 10 | Quote: 
 The batteries (plural) lasted about three months, depending on how much I pressed the buttons. Last edited by kevinp; 09-04-2013 at 08:03 PM. Reason: added... | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:07 PM | #21 | 
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|  09-04-2013, 08:07 PM | #22 | 
| Fanatic            Posts: 583 Karma: 3549018 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Michigan Device: Kindle Scribe, Kindle PW (10th & 11th gen); Fire HD 10 | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:09 PM | #23 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | Quote: 
 A $300 accessory to a $400(?) smartphone... I'd say the price needs to be closer to $99, if not lower, or a purely standalone toy. I'm getting flashes of the Beagle, here. (All three versions.  ) | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:15 PM | #24 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | Quote:   | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:18 PM | #25 | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:24 PM | #26 | |
| Illiterate            Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro | Quote: 
 Pretty soon the market was flooded with all kinds of cheap Mickey Mouse and Star Wars watches. Regardless, they still had the red battery hogging LEDs. About a year later someone made a black on grey LCD watch that was always on except, as someone said, they turned black in bright sunlight. The point is that with an analog watch with real hands, you just had to glance at it and you knew what time it was. If you had to reach over with your other hand and push a button to turn it on you might as well just pull out a pocket watch. Same today, except the pocket watch is now a cell phone, and the smart watch needs to be always on to be very much more useful than that.` | |
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|  09-04-2013, 08:25 PM | #27 | ||
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|  09-04-2013, 08:48 PM | #28 | 
| Guru            Posts: 787 Karma: 1575310 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Moon+ Pro | 
			
			One problem with most of these complaints is the assumption that you'll carry your phone in your pocket. And which pocket? I carry mine in my shirt pocket as I'd break it if I carried it in my rear pocket & it's virtually impossible to get it out of my front pants pocket when I'm sitting down. Frankly I'd prefer to carry it buttoned in so it won't fall out but few shirt pockets have button flaps. So I can see a limited use for this (not at this price point) if you keep your phone buttoned into your shirt/coat pocket where it's safe. (Not sure that a coat pocket is all that safe, again it depends on which pocket. I had an early PDA in my coat side pocket when I hung my coat over the back of my rolling chair. The edges trailed on the ground-so when I rolled my chair back from my desk, crack-that was the end of that PDA, and the end of my carrying things in the side pocket of my coat.) When I wear suits I often carry my phone in my inside pocket-not the easiest place to get it out of just to find out I got a junk call.
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|  09-04-2013, 09:08 PM | #29 | 
| Illiterate            Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro | 
			
			I used to carry mine in my shirt pocket until it took a dive into the cat's water dish one day. Don't do that any more.  In Hawaii we hardly ever wear a jacket or coat, so it's my front trousers pocket. I almost aways wear dress slacks to work, so the pockets are fairly loose. On weekends it's cargo shorts so there are plenty pockets. Last edited by wodin; 09-04-2013 at 09:12 PM. | 
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|  09-05-2013, 09:36 AM | #30 | 
| Evangelist            Posts: 459 Karma: 4818038 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Nook, Nook Color, EVO3D, Surface RT, Galaxy S5, Surface 3 | 
			
			The more I think about this watch, the more I think it was just a knee-jerk reaction by Samsung to get something on the market once they heard Apple was coming out with one.  The rushed it out without really giving any thought as to what would make it useful. Not surprising from Samsung though. They may be a powerhouse of cutting edge technologies and manufacturing, but they have never been very good at executing original ideas. | 
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