J.D. Salinger: Five New Books in 2015? - Page 2

doubleshuffle · 08-26-2013, 10:13 AM

The producers of the documentary make the assertions; Salinger gave the instructions. Is it that complicated?

ProfCrash · 08-26-2013, 10:30 AM

Why do the producers of the documentary have to make assertion if he gave instructions? He either gave instructions or he didn't. If he did, then his lawyers would be following through with said instructions and it would be known. If it wasn't suppose to be known and was leaked then there is a problem some where that needs to be addressed (see JKR recent leak).

doubleshuffle · 08-26-2013, 10:46 AM

You didn't just mention JK Rowling in the same breath as Salinger, did you? At least with her you can be sure that once she croaks, any old crap she ever wrote will be published. First draft of the Quidditch rules, anyone?

ProfCrash · 08-26-2013, 10:56 AM

If Salinger's lawyers leaked that he left instructions for books to be released when they were not suppose to then that is the same as JKR's leaking that she is writing under a pen name. A breach of confidentiality.

If Salinger left instructions for works to be released then there really is no reason for a detailed assertion that said instructions were left in a documentary. If they are using hints and trying to piece together that said instructions exist there is the possibility that the law firm is responsible for a leak and that would be a breach of confidentiality.

So yes, I mentioned them in the same breath because confidentiality is confidentiality is confidentiality no matter what you think of the caliber of author.

doubleshuffle · 08-26-2013, 11:05 AM

Or perhaps the leak is part of the plan (in both cases, so granted, another parallel...). But I have to stop thinking about Rowling now, or I'll go

pynch · 08-26-2013, 11:15 AM

There is no mention of Salinger’s lawyers in the text, it only says that there are two independent sources for the assertion. As we cannot know if those sources have been sworn to confidentiality, it is mere speculation to say that it has been breached.

And of course there’s reason for a detailed assertion as long as Salinger’s family declines to officially confirm said instructions.

JD Gumby · 08-26-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

..."detailed assertions that Salinger instructed his estate"...

In other words "someone claims Salinger told his estate's executor to publish them posthumously" rather than any verifiable proof.

Catlady · 08-26-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

If he didn't want the work published when he was a live, why should it be published after he died? It strikes me as his family is ignoring his wishes. Which strikes me as disrespectful and a money grab.

If he didn't ever want the work published, he should have destroyed it.

pynch · 08-27-2013, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

In other words "someone claims Salinger told his estate's executor to publish them posthumously" rather than any verifiable proof.

It’s right, there is no way for us to verify that Salerno’s assertion is correct, as long as the family declines to comment (which presumably won’t change).

Still, this info doesn’t come from some cheap gossip site, but from someone who invested nine years of research in his film and book and convinced PBS and the Weinstein Company of his project, and while it’s perfectly possible that he invented his sources to sell more books (the two years before the truth will come out in 2015 should be enough for that), it’s not far-fetched to think that he just wants to protect his sources—something that was called journalism a long time ago.

I’m still cautiously optimistic.

doubleshuffle · 08-27-2013, 05:04 AM

High time to detain that Salerno chap at an airport and question him for a day or so...

Kumabjorn · 08-27-2013, 05:12 AM

Out of curiosity; Did he live on the income of Catcher in the Rye all these years? That was enough to sustain him and his family?

doubleshuffle · 08-27-2013, 05:25 AM

Yep. Selling the film rights set him for life.

pynch · 08-27-2013, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Yep. Selling the film rights set him for life.

Oh, great, another rumour.

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Out of curiosity; Did he live on the income of Catcher in the Rye all these years? That was enough to sustain him and his family?

If Wikipedia is right, about 250,000 copies of Catcher in the Rye are sold each year. Should be enough.

Synamon · 08-27-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Yep. Selling the film rights set him for life.

In an alternate universe? Salinger refused to sell the film rights. There has been noise lately that the rights might be sold now that he's dead, but your assertion is flat out wrong.

doubleshuffle · 08-27-2013, 10:51 AM

Damn. You caught me out, though I was making such a nice detailed assertion...

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doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	The producers of the documentary make the assertions; Salinger gave the instructions. Is it that complicated?

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Why do the producers of the documentary have to make assertion if he gave instructions? He either gave instructions or he didn't. If he did, then his lawyers would be following through with said instructions and it would be known. If it wasn't suppose to be known and was leaked then there is a problem some where that needs to be addressed (see JKR recent leak).

08-26-2013, 10:46 AM	#18
doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	You didn't just mention JK Rowling in the same breath as Salinger, did you? At least with her you can be sure that once she croaks, any old crap she ever wrote will be published. First draft of the Quidditch rules, anyone?

08-26-2013, 10:56 AM	#19
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	If Salinger's lawyers leaked that he left instructions for books to be released when they were not suppose to then that is the same as JKR's leaking that she is writing under a pen name. A breach of confidentiality. If Salinger left instructions for works to be released then there really is no reason for a detailed assertion that said instructions were left in a documentary. If they are using hints and trying to piece together that said instructions exist there is the possibility that the law firm is responsible for a leak and that would be a breach of confidentiality. So yes, I mentioned them in the same breath because confidentiality is confidentiality is confidentiality no matter what you think of the caliber of author.

08-26-2013, 11:05 AM	#20
doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	Or perhaps the leak is part of the plan (in both cases, so granted, another parallel...). But I have to stop thinking about Rowling now, or I'll go

08-26-2013, 11:15 AM	#21
pynch why in? Posts: 1,630 Karma: 29896776 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Aura	There is no mention of Salinger’s lawyers in the text, it only says that there are two independent sources for the assertion. As we cannot know if those sources have been sworn to confidentiality, it is mere speculation to say that it has been breached. And of course there’s reason for a detailed assertion as long as Salinger’s family declines to officially confirm said instructions.

08-27-2013, 05:04 AM	#25
doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	High time to detain that Salerno chap at an airport and question him for a day or so...

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Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	Out of curiosity; Did he live on the income of Catcher in the Rye all these years? That was enough to sustain him and his family?

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08-27-2013, 10:51 AM	#30
doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	Damn. You caught me out, though I was making such a nice detailed assertion...