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|  07-07-2013, 07:42 AM | #16 | 
| I ♥ Calibre            Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2 | 
			
			As they all use Adobe DRM I'd imagine its the same process to get your books from all those shops so none are any less "painful"?  I bought one book from WH Smith a long time ago pre-Kobo (and can't remember what I did with it anyway!), but more recently, when I bought epubs from Books On Board my process was to buy the book, click on the .acsm file to load it into Adobe Reader, locate the .epub file in My Digital Editions and then load it into Calibre. I *think* they will all be the same. Though Nook is different, I'd avoid them if I were you, and just be careful you don't get the kepub version of a book from Kobo (though I think it's fairly obvious what version you are getting, Kobo users will be able to tell you more). However, I think your logic on buying epubs instead of Kindle format is flawed. As others have advised, buy on price, not some idea that epubs are better and you are supporting the development of epub (its only better in terms of it being an open format, and if you own a Kindle, that is a pointless benefit, and you are only supporting the shop you buy from, not the development of the format). Last edited by soulfuldog; 07-07-2013 at 07:46 AM. | 
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|  07-07-2013, 10:27 AM | #18 | 
| A Hairy Wizard            Posts: 3,395 Karma: 20212733 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 15/11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire | 
			
			Hard to 'directly' contribute...but...'indirectly' if the industry sees that ePub format is outselling the others by a large margin then those industries will tend to prefer ePubs. This would then squeeze out the competing formats.
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|  07-09-2013, 12:55 AM | #19 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
 Just curious. Helen | |
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|  07-10-2013, 09:10 PM | #20 | 
| Sigil & calibre developer            Posts: 2,487 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR | 
			
			Anything that gives you an .acsm file is using Adobe's system and will be the same process regardless of the store. Why do you say that? The DRM Nook uses is one of the least painful to deal with (I use B&N/Nook US). You don't have to deal with .acsm files or having a special piece of software to download the actual book. The Nook's DRM system is a variation (essentially an updated version) of the DRM developed and used by eReader for their eReader .pdb format. Which means you don't have to any phone home validation. | 
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|  07-10-2013, 10:44 PM | #21 | |
| Testate Amoeba            Posts: 3,049 Karma: 27300000 Join Date: Sep 2012 Device: Many Android devices, Kindle 2, Toshiba e755 PocketPC | Quote: 
 I also like ebooks.com. They still carry PDFs when available and that's actually my preferred format. Furthermore, you can download all available formats with a single purchase. The downside is that they're full retail price all the way, so they only get my business when I really want a PDF or when the book is from a publisher that forces everyone to sell at the same price. As a kind of aside, their Adobe system must be configured differently than everyone else's because you can download a book multiple times to multiple Adobe IDs (I haven't activated Digital Editions with an email address, so each of my computers has a different ID). | |
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|  07-11-2013, 09:07 PM | #22 | 
| Groupie            Posts: 152 Karma: 1018376 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Samsung G3 Tablet, Kobo Vox | 
			
			Why not buy either according to price?  I have both on my Vox and you can easily do the same on any tablet or ereader with some tablet capability.
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|  07-12-2013, 02:45 AM | #23 | 
| Evangelist            Posts: 493 Karma: 5277078 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Clara HD, Boox Poke 2, PocketBook Verse Pro (634) | 
			
			I think I have bought from all of your listed UK sites and Waterstones is probably the easiest in my experience, but I rarely buy from it because it is more often than not more expensive on non-fixed price books. Amazon is probably the best site I have used, but I prefer to buy elsewhere whenever there is not too much price difference. Google books also do epub. Though selecting the epub to download is slightly longer winded than other sites. What I love is Luzme (.com). Create a free account, set up a wishlist and it will search the best price from all the main sellers. You can have emails sent to you when the price drops below a limit you have set. | 
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|  07-12-2013, 08:09 AM | #24 | 
| I ♥ Calibre            Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2 | 
			
			Purely because it is different, that's all. Whereas if you buy a book from Waterstones, WH Smith/Kobo or Sony, you'll deal with them all the same way. Apologies if it is in fact easier to deal with a book bought from Nook though!
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|  07-12-2013, 04:42 PM | #25 | |
| DRM hater            Posts: 945 Karma: 2066176 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Michigan Device: Nook ST glow, Kindle Voyage | Quote: 
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|  07-15-2013, 05:12 AM | #26 | |
| Addict            Posts: 300 Karma: 2000410 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle 4 | Quote: 
 I didn't get your second sentence; anyone else? Edit. I only said https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=17 so now I hope to further clarified. Last edited by avid01; 07-15-2013 at 05:18 AM. | |
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|  07-15-2013, 05:17 AM | #27 | |
| Addict            Posts: 300 Karma: 2000410 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle 4 | Quote: 
 I write - First name, last name - it finds author - Last name, first name - zero hits - Word from author name, word from title - don't expect Anyways, how it could be a good search engine if it doesn't find readily available titles on Amazon - even if I feed it with its desired format? | |
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|  07-15-2013, 05:20 AM | #28 | 
| Addict            Posts: 300 Karma: 2000410 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle 4 | 
			
			Do not understand your argument: different. Could you pls. elaborate on it a little more?
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|  07-15-2013, 06:44 AM | #29 | 
| Guru            Posts: 729 Karma: 3822612 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sweden Device: Paperwhite 2, Kobo Aura H2O | 
			
			I use the Diesel ebook store sometimes http://www.diesel-ebooks.com/
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|  07-15-2013, 07:50 AM | #30 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | 
			
			Diesel have fairly frequently been lambasted on this forum for having spectacularly terrible customer service. Might be something to bear in mind, just in case something does go wrong with an order.
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