Esquire printed magazine. Now with an E Ink cover - Page 6

astrodad · 09-08-2008, 11:35 AM

Wow, talk about disappointing. All of that effort, cost, and waste, for that? Nice try, but not nice enough, in my opinion.

WillAdams · 09-08-2008, 01:26 PM

A co-worker and I just went and picked up copies --- neat, and pretty cool for $5.99 plus tax, though I wonder if there'll be another, since I wonder how cost-effective the advertising will be for Ford.

William

xianfox · 09-08-2008, 01:32 PM

That's the best use of eink Ford could think of? Wow. Just, wow.

*shakes head*

nekokami · 09-08-2008, 02:51 PM

I'd consider picking one up if anyone has a "homebrew" idea for making an ebook reader from the screens.

After all... 10 inches? Non-fragile? There must be SOMETHING we can do with this.

WillAdams · 09-08-2008, 03:02 PM

Unfortunately, it looks like each display has a limited number of pre-defined regions which can be turned on or off --- the Ford ad just has 4 by my count (semi-abstract shapes --- the two wheels constitute one area), while the Esquire cover has 12:

- The 21st Century
- Begins
- Now ->
8 rectangles
- and the background

There's a coloured overlay over each e-ink display --- probably one could do something interesting by creating new overlays and then either using the chip as it is, or re-programming a new one for a different animation sequence / timing / order --- but I don't think it'd be possible to make an ebook display or PDA using the existing controller, save for the simplest (do an overlay w/ pre-printed appts. &c. on it and backlight them according to a timer), but see my later post for a possible work-around.

William

nekokami · 09-08-2008, 03:06 PM

Well, I suppose pre-defined regions could reduce the production cost, except that you'd have to tool up just to create this particular screen series. Wouldn't that be wasteful? And expensive? I guess I had assumed they had used the same basic stock for the display, but a much simpler controller, perhaps, and I was hoping we could splice in a different controller.

daffy4u · 09-08-2008, 03:09 PM

I can't find it. I went to Borders, Barnes & Noble, local grocery store and local drug store. Where Esquire was available, it was still the September issue. I had the Borders folks check in the back room and they said they hadn't received the new issue yet.

Nate the great · 09-08-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

I can't find it. I went to Borders, Barnes & Noble, local grocery store and local drug store. Where Esquire was available, it was still the September issue. I had the Borders folks check in the back room and they said they hadn't received the new issue yet.

I also checked. I won't be able to get it until Wednesday.

WillAdams · 09-08-2008, 03:21 PM

There're only a couple of lines coming out of each display, fewer for the Ford ad (4, I think, w/ 2 not-connected leads, 6 for the Esquire cover), and the animation works if one plugs in the connector upside down (just in reverse order for the Esquire cover, only 2 regions for the Ford ad).

But, it seems one could by-pass the controller and develop a small board to flip the e-ink particles w/o using the provided controller --- it'd have to be strong enough to work through the metallic backing unless one could delaminate it --- but you could hopefully address a fine enough grid to do something interesting.

William

Faenad · 09-08-2008, 03:22 PM

wow, the cover is all about how we are in the 21st century, and next page Ford put an add for a gas guggling SUV

Madam Broshkina · 09-08-2008, 06:10 PM

I think it is pretty cool. It will be even better when the firmware upgrade comes out. I can't hardly wait!

Patricia · 09-08-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekokami

I'd consider picking one up if anyone has a "homebrew" idea for making an ebook reader from the screens.

After all... 10 inches? Non-fragile? There must be SOMETHING we can do with this.

I can see this idea as leading to fancy (and rather wasteful) birthday cards.
A few years ago someone developed birthday card which played irritating music when you opened them. I foresee birthday cards with irritating moving images.
(Anyone who develops this idea may feel free to send me a small - or large - donation.)

zelda_pinwheel · 09-08-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madam Broshkina

I think it is pretty cool. It will be even better when the firmware upgrade comes out. I can't hardly wait!

pfff !!!

nekokami · 09-09-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patricia

I can see this idea as leading to fancy (and rather wasteful) birthday cards.
A few years ago someone developed birthday card which played irritating music when you opened them. I foresee birthday cards with irritating moving images.
(Anyone who develops this idea may feel free to send me a small - or large - donation.)

Oh, absolutely. And mediatronic wrapping paper and chopsticks in frozen meals that have little animated logos on them (see Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age).

When what we really want is A Young Lady's Primer (same source).

DMcCunney · 09-09-2008, 12:13 PM

Esquire's E-Ink Display Dismantled. Result: Hackable
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...res-e-ink.html
______
Dennis

09-08-2008, 03:02 PM	#80
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,259 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Unfortunately, it looks like each display has a limited number of pre-defined regions which can be turned on or off --- the Ford ad just has 4 by my count (semi-abstract shapes --- the two wheels constitute one area), while the Esquire cover has 12: - The 21st Century - Begins - Now -> 8 rectangles - and the background There's a coloured overlay over each e-ink display --- probably one could do something interesting by creating new overlays and then either using the chip as it is, or re-programming a new one for a different animation sequence / timing / order --- but I don't think it'd be possible to make an ebook display or PDA using the existing controller, save for the simplest (do an overlay w/ pre-printed appts. &c. on it and backlight them according to a timer), but see my later post for a possible work-around. William Last edited by WillAdams; 09-09-2008 at 07:49 AM. Reason: figured out how many areas the Ford ad really has

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09-08-2008, 11:35 AM	#76
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	Wow, talk about disappointing. All of that effort, cost, and waste, for that? Nice try, but not nice enough, in my opinion.

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WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,259 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	A co-worker and I just went and picked up copies --- neat, and pretty cool for $5.99 plus tax, though I wonder if there'll be another, since I wonder how cost-effective the advertising will be for Ford. William

09-08-2008, 01:32 PM	#78
xianfox Ebook Addict Posts: 225 Karma: 2136 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin, USA Device: Onyx BOOX Note Air 4C, Palma	That's the best use of eink Ford could think of? Wow. Just, wow. shakes head

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nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I'd consider picking one up if anyone has a "homebrew" idea for making an ebook reader from the screens. After all... 10 inches? Non-fragile? There must be SOMETHING we can do with this.

09-08-2008, 03:06 PM	#81
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Well, I suppose pre-defined regions could reduce the production cost, except that you'd have to tool up just to create this particular screen series. Wouldn't that be wasteful? And expensive? I guess I had assumed they had used the same basic stock for the display, but a much simpler controller, perhaps, and I was hoping we could splice in a different controller.

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daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	I can't find it. I went to Borders, Barnes & Noble, local grocery store and local drug store. Where Esquire was available, it was still the September issue. I had the Borders folks check in the back room and they said they hadn't received the new issue yet.

09-08-2008, 03:21 PM	#84
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,259 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	There're only a couple of lines coming out of each display, fewer for the Ford ad (4, I think, w/ 2 not-connected leads, 6 for the Esquire cover), and the animation works if one plugs in the connector upside down (just in reverse order for the Esquire cover, only 2 regions for the Ford ad). But, it seems one could by-pass the controller and develop a small board to flip the e-ink particles w/o using the provided controller --- it'd have to be strong enough to work through the metallic backing unless one could delaminate it --- but you could hopefully address a fine enough grid to do something interesting. William

09-08-2008, 03:22 PM	#85
Faenad Ad astra per aspera Posts: 347 Karma: 724 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mexico Device: PRS-505, PRS-300 & HTC HD2	wow, the cover is all about how we are in the 21st century, and next page Ford put an add for a gas guggling SUV

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Madam Broshkina Manic Do Fuse Posts: 2,312 Karma: 3325462 Join Date: Oct 2006 Device: Sony 500, 505, 350, Kindle 3, DXG, nook, Irex DR800SG, iPad	I think it is pretty cool. It will be even better when the firmware upgrade comes out. I can't hardly wait!

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DMcCunney New York Editor Posts: 6,384 Karma: 16540415 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: PalmTX, Pocket eDGe, Alcatel Fierce 4, RCA Viking Pro 10, Nexus 7	Esquire's E-Ink Display Dismantled. Result: Hackable http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...res-e-ink.html ______ Dennis