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Old 08-15-2008, 12:05 PM   #31
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Now now....

If two moderators are going to have a difference of opinion in these forums I was hoping it would be a YouTube video of Patricia and Zelda in a vat of jello. This kind of professional conduct is totally uncalled for and frankly kind of ... [yawn].

btw, I didn't know that Nate went to a bookstore yesterday so it was news to me.


(as for the vat of jello, i can assure you that both patricia and i are far too refined to put a video of that sort online. and we can probably work out any hypothetical differences without the aid of gelatinous desserts. sorry to disappoint you. we'll let you know if we ever decide to take it up as sport.)
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:23 PM   #32
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Besides, all that gelatin would gum up the buttons of the ebook readers.

Anything about Rowling is book news, and in particular, given her known antipathy towards ebooks, a new book by Rowling is ebook news because it won't be an ebook. Officially.

(Though I'm considering starting a betting pool on how many days in advance of the paper release the fully scanned, OCR'd, and proofed version will be available via darknet.)
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:24 PM   #33
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Why, by the way, are we discussing this as "News"? The announcement about the publication of this book was made a couple of weeks ago - one could hardly visit Amazon and avoid it!
I only found out about it yesterday. It hadn't been announced here. And I thought there would be at least some people here who would be interested.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:29 PM   #34
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Sure - that's a fair comment. I must admit that I considered reporting it when the initial announcement was made (which I see was on 31st July) but I thought at the time that it wasn't really sufficiently "mobile reading" related.

I have both a "standard" and a "deluxe" version on pre-order .
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:36 PM   #35
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I'm slightly curious to know how you can pass judgement on it without having read it?
I'm not curious I'm aghast.
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:52 PM   #36
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It's not so much paranoia about piracy (maybe that's the publisher's view), but the author has said before that she doesn't feel that electronic books are a proper way to experience her stories, and that she feels they need to be read on paper in order to be correctly enjoyed. So she's not paranoid, just a luddite.
That's just rediculas (said as a spell). The story doesn't change if I read it as a PDF on my PC, or on my Kindle or on Paper, or on napkins written in crayon. Who is she to decide how "I" enjoy reading books.

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Old 08-15-2008, 01:59 PM   #37
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actually i find the harry potter books to be far from dumbed down. the concepts, characters and situations are a darned site smarter and more adult than many books i've read that were written for adults.

and as fantasy goes, i think it's excellent and dark. in fact, the last book or two are too dark for me. for me to really get the most out of any book or movie, it needs to take an occasional a break from dark or i become a bit desensitized.

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I have never read a HP book nor ever do I intend to, sorry.

"Its fantasy Jim, but not as we know it!"

Dumbed down - fine for kids I guess but don't kid yourself this is not high quality literature. Not that there is anything wrong with pulp fiction (I read loads of it that is clearly 'labelled' as such).

BTW - This is of course IMHO, but flame if you must
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I have both a "standard" and a "deluxe" version on pre-order .
Oh... you rascal! I "want" the deluxe, but just can't justify the cost.

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Old 08-15-2008, 02:17 PM   #39
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That's just rediculas (said as a spell). The story doesn't change if I read it as a PDF on my PC, or on my Kindle or on Paper, or on napkins written in crayon.
Actually, I could see it making a difference if the medium was actually USED for something that enhanced the reading of the story. Something such as a special font or a certain type of paper or even an image heavy design. Of course all that would be dropped for the mass market editions that came later and once again became just text on a viewing surface.

Yes, that can make an experience difference. I once printed out all of Le Morte d'Arthur using a large calligraphy font on fake parchment paper for a friend in the hospital. That was 10 years ago and I believe they still have it and use it to read with their kids. (Though they did make a binder for it.)
 
Old 08-15-2008, 02:29 PM   #40
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(Though I'm considering starting a betting pool on how many days in advance of the paper release the fully scanned, OCR'd, and proofed version will be available via darknet.)
You mean you haven't downloaded a copy yet?
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:52 PM   #41
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(Though I'm considering starting a betting pool on how many days in advance of the paper release the fully scanned, OCR'd, and proofed version will be available via darknet.)
Ha-ha, I am looking forward for the copy
Although I am going to pre-order deluxe version as well.
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I'm slightly curious to know how you can pass judgement on it without having read it?
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No, it's certainly not "great literature" (and nobody's ever claimed that it is), but it is well written, and a good read.
Nah! First one was ok, but I lost interest quickly after that.
Well written? Not really (imho).
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Old 08-15-2008, 04:13 PM   #43
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I thought this site was a forum for mobile reading. Nowhere does it say that electronic equipment is required.
Judges (ie Moderators), can we get a ruling on that? Because I'm having a hard time seeing why this bit of news should be on this site, myself. I mean, if it's not going to be an e-book... it doesn't seem to be any more appropriate here than a news story on Hellboy 2 or Survivor: Rear Service Elevator.

(And this has nothing to do with the fact that I'd personally much rather read the Tales of Beetle the Bailey...)

(Well, okay... actually it does. I just wanted an excuse to use that Beetle the Bailey pun and throw in a stupid Survivor title...)
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I admit, when Amazon started pushing it, I thought of posting here but couldn't get motivated to do so... at least in part because I was having trouble figuring out what angle on the story would make it ebook newsworthy.

But we did have a post when Amazon bought the book at the charity auction, so it's kind of late to say it's off-topic. Possibly the thread could be moved to the Lounge, I guess.
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