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			I read through the detailed government response. They still allow companies to apply DRM measures, but if this would prevent a permitted act, such as copying between devices, you can apply to some central agency for redress. However, such redress could be advice to purchase an additional copy in a format that would work... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Stripping DRM would therefore still be illegal in the UK, as far as I can see. http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ipresponse Graham  | 
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 (Not that it matters from a practical perspective. Nobody ever has been, or is ever likely to be, prosecuted for personal DRM removal.)  | 
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 The sections which make the distinction between commercial and domestic use are those referring to importing, distributing, possessing etc. devices or services designed to remove DRM. The actual act of stripping DRM, however seems to me to be deemed illegal without restriction to commercial purposes by section 296ZA (Circumvention of Technical Measures). Relevant legal mumbo-jumbo available here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...copyprotection /JB  | 
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 Creating one for money, yes. Creating one otherwise, no. Distributing one for money, yes. Distributing one otherwise, no. Providing information about one, yes. Possessing one for commercial purposes, yes. Possessing one otherwise, no. Using one, no. The actual announcement: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/about/press/pr...e-20121220.htm The most relevant portion: Quote: 
	
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			Yes, that's my reading too. Not that it's of any practical importance either way.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			It's certainly implied in 296ZE, as I indicated above. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 The response document I linked to earlier mentioned that the remedial action could be 'buy it in a different format'. Graham  | 
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			I don't think so. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I suspect that I'll continue to get more practical help from my good friend Alf than from the Secretary of State.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	 
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 I gave the wrong link earlier. Here's the government's full response document: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/response-2011-copyright-final.pdf In the section on DRM (p20) (my highlights): Quote: 
	
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			BTW, which secretary of state is being referred to here? Which government department? Is it the Home Secretary?
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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