Christmas Trees - a pencil drawing - Page 2

poohbear_nc · 10-23-2012, 03:44 PM

A quick question as to perspective - why did you place the trees so far to the right? A conscious decision? Or it just felt right?

kennyc · 10-23-2012, 03:45 PM

Thanks Deb!

HomeInMyShoes · 10-23-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

A quick question as to perspective - why did you place the trees so far to the right? A conscious decision? Or it just felt right?

I think you mean composition over perspective. I'd say it's roughly approximating the old divide the plane into thirds. It's a method of adding a bit more dynamic interest to what could be a rather static image.

kennyc · 10-23-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

A quick question as to perspective - why did you place the trees so far to the right? A conscious decision? Or it just felt right?

Generally in any composition you want to place the subject(s) of interest at one of the four 'areas of intrest' centered upper right (like this), centered upper left or lower left, lower right. A portrait centered works mostly because the eyes or other areas of interest approximate this, but with something like this placing the main subject dead center (even up or down) is typically boring.

Same goes for photography (which is where this originated) but the reference was not quite this composition.

badgoodDeb · 10-23-2012, 03:56 PM

Yeah -- having the empty space on the left evokes winter, not just "trees".

kennyc · 10-23-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I think you mean composition over perspective. I'd say it's roughly approximating the old divide the plane into thirds. It's a method of adding a bit more dynamic interest to what could be a rather static image.

Yep, Golden Mean / Golden Ration and all that sort of stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

Rumpelteazer · 10-23-2012, 05:27 PM

Great drawing Kenny!

Inspires me to do some drawing myself tomorrow.

kennyc · 10-23-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumpelteazer

Great drawing Kenny!

Inspires me to do some drawing myself tomorrow.

Wonderful!

poohbear_nc · 10-23-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

I think you mean composition over perspective. I'd say it's roughly approximating the old divide the plane into thirds. It's a method of adding a bit more dynamic interest to what could be a rather static image.

You can tell when I try to type something with my temperature above 100 F - I mix up my words ....

poohbear_nc · 10-23-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Yep, Golden Mean / Golden Ration and all that sort of stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

I knew there was a reason -- curious minds want to know!

Daithi · 10-24-2012, 12:53 PM

Great job Kenny!

I'd had just seen the picture in the SPOILER below and wanted to share it, and then I happened upon Kenny's thread. So, I hope he doesn't mind me adding this picture to the thread (however, I am putting it in a spoiler because I don't want to detract from Kenny's thread).

Spoiler:

...in case you are wondering, this was done entirely in pencil and is not a photograph.

kennyc · 10-24-2012, 01:09 PM

Thank you! I have mixed feelings about extreme realism even though it is realism that I strive for in most of my work (this particularly one is actually less realistic and more artistic). I can appreciate the work and effort involved in such works, but even doing work in the area of realism sometime I say "why not just take (or print) a picture." Armin addresses this in his view in his latest posting on his DA website.

Here is Armin's most recent work “The Simplicity of Silence” Pencil on Board, 45” x 80” which ended up taking some 1800 hours to complete:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ra-d5dnjld.jpg

BTW Armin was one of those that did and continue to inspire me in my art.

DA Link here: http://nimra.deviantart.com/art/The-...ence-325264369 his other works are well worthy of visiting! - http://nimra.deviantart.com/

As are DiegoKoi's works also at DA: http://diegokoi.deviantart.com/

Daithi · 10-24-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Thank you! I have mixed feelings about extreme realism even though it is realism that I strive for in most of my work (this particularly one is actually less realistic and more artistic). I can appreciate the work and effort involved in such works, but even doing work in the area of realism sometime I say "why not just take (or print) a picture."

I actually agree with you Kenny. I was struck by how "real" this particular piece was done, but in general I'm not a fan of realism. Personally, I like artwork with lots of lost edges but where I can still tell what something is. My mind should roam around the painting a while and take it in. Justin Sweet is a good example of this type of artist.

Spoiler:

I also like illustrators like Norman Rockwell, Arthur Rackham, and Howard Pyle because they are masters of artwork that evokes emotion.

kennyc · 10-24-2012, 03:30 PM

Interesting! Thanks!

cromag · 10-24-2012, 09:59 PM

Just in time for Halloween (since the one on the right appears to have been beheaded).

10-24-2012, 01:09 PM	#27
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Thank you! I have mixed feelings about extreme realism even though it is realism that I strive for in most of my work (this particularly one is actually less realistic and more artistic). I can appreciate the work and effort involved in such works, but even doing work in the area of realism sometime I say "why not just take (or print) a picture." Armin addresses this in his view in his latest posting on his DA website. Here is Armin's most recent work “The Simplicity of Silence” Pencil on Board, 45” x 80” which ended up taking some 1800 hours to complete: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ra-d5dnjld.jpg BTW Armin was one of those that did and continue to inspire me in my art. DA Link here: http://nimra.deviantart.com/art/The-...ence-325264369 his other works are well worthy of visiting! - http://nimra.deviantart.com/ As are DiegoKoi's works also at DA: http://diegokoi.deviantart.com/ Last edited by kennyc; 10-24-2012 at 03:15 PM.

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10-23-2012, 03:44 PM	#16
poohbear_nc Bah! Humbug! Posts: 64,191 Karma: 135242149 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Durham, NC Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!	A quick question as to perspective - why did you place the trees so far to the right? A conscious decision? Or it just felt right?

10-23-2012, 03:45 PM	#17
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Thanks Deb!

10-23-2012, 03:56 PM	#20
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,574 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Yeah -- having the empty space on the left evokes winter, not just "trees".

10-23-2012, 05:27 PM	#22
Rumpelteazer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,397 Karma: 27919658 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	Great drawing Kenny! Inspires me to do some drawing myself tomorrow.

10-24-2012, 12:53 PM	#26
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	Great job Kenny! I'd had just seen the picture in the SPOILER below and wanted to share it, and then I happened upon Kenny's thread. So, I hope he doesn't mind me adding this picture to the thread (however, I am putting it in a spoiler because I don't want to detract from Kenny's thread). Spoiler: ...in case you are wondering, this was done entirely in pencil and is not a photograph.

10-24-2012, 03:30 PM	#29
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Interesting! Thanks!

10-24-2012, 09:59 PM	#30
cromag Surfin the alpha waves ~~ Posts: 26,744 Karma: 459765791 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Device: Jetbook Lite & Mini, Nook STR, Kobo, Hanvon N516, Kindle 2, Androids	Just in time for Halloween (since the one on the right appears to have been beheaded).