Browser alternative

aranwe · 08-31-2012, 05:18 AM

Hi,
i would like to start discussion about how likely is it to port some open source browser to kindle? ... something like chromium (here is link about compiling for arm linux) or midori - which is GTK app - someone here started proting GTK apps to kindle .. this one could be nice.
Why?
mainly tab support, dowloads support

knc1 · 08-31-2012, 05:27 AM

Have you tried building any of those for the "kindle" yet?
What where your results?

Have you tried re-building the existing webkit based browser to include the features you wish?
What where your results?

What do you mean by 'start a discussion'?
Is this a request that someone else do it for you?

twobob · 08-31-2012, 08:14 AM

Been working toward getting webkit compiled for the kindle.

Currently have a few - required - build fails but it's rumbling along.

What will be done with it when it is ready for service is another discussion.

Update when there is one.

knc1 · 08-31-2012, 08:38 AM

O.P. asked the question about downloads two weeks ago and got a link to this in reply:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=121008

So lets first find out if the O.P. tried it, and what the results where.

juice99 · 10-08-2012, 04:32 PM

what about browser that will allow to connect via 3g to other sites than amazon/wikipedia ? or is there such already? i'm talking about kindle touch 3g and kindle paperwhite 3g

qlob · 10-08-2012, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juice99

what about browser that will allow to connect via 3g to other sites than amazon/wikipedia ? or is there such already? i'm talking about kindle touch 3g and kindle paperwhite 3g

No, that is breaching Amazon's TOS if I remember correctly.

aditya3098 · 10-09-2012, 07:29 AM

Doesnt the kindle come with libwebkitgtk built in?

twobob · 10-09-2012, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aditya3098

Doesnt the kindle come with libwebkitgtk built in?

[root@kindle root]# find / -iname '*'"libwebkitgtk"'*'
/usr/lib/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0
/usr/lib/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.7.2
/usr/lib/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so

On the 5

baf · 10-09-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aditya3098

Doesnt the kindle come with libwebkitgtk built in?

If you look into Kindle sources, you will see that Lab126 made a lot of changes to webkit.

Panopticon · 10-09-2012, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qlob

No, that is breaching Amazon's TOS if I remember correctly.

Didn't the Kindle 3 allow you to use 3G everywhere? As I recall there was controversy when Amazon retroactively disabled a feature that people paid for.

What's the legality of violating Amazon's ToS to use 3G for general purposes?

baf · 10-09-2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aditya3098

Doesnt the kindle come with libwebkitgtk built in?

By the way, trying to build webkit from sources released by Amazon I got error because of missing header files, like DefaultFontHelper.h.

Edit: I was blind. It is there

twobob · 10-09-2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panopticon

Didn't the Kindle 3 allow you to use 3G everywhere? As I recall there was controversy when Amazon retroactively disabled a feature that people paid for.

Yes it did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panopticon

What's the legality of violating Amazon's ToS to use 3G for general purposes?

If you have to ask...

baf · 10-11-2012, 11:14 AM

I built Midori browser, but it would probably need a lot of hacking to make it work. Initial state is that the main window opens, but menus don't work and it is unstable.
I had more luck with SkipStone. This one works quite well after minor adjustments. If I find time I will work more on it.
Or maybe there are some other lightweight browsers that use webkitgtk?

Edit: You will find more info in this thread.

twobob · 10-11-2012, 11:29 AM

ooh... skipstone look nice. *cheerlead*

If you want me to break an early version for you a bit feel free to post

not sure of any other alternatives, but if Gooble splats something out I'll let you know.

eureka · 10-11-2012, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baf

Or maybe there are some other lightweight browsers that use webkitgtk?

surf, uzbl, luakit, xxxterm, jumanji

08-31-2012, 05:18 AM	#1
aranwe Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 5000 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CZE Device: Kindle Touch	Browser alternative Hi, i would like to start discussion about how likely is it to port some open source browser to kindle? ... something like chromium (here is link about compiling for arm linux) or midori - which is GTK app - someone here started proting GTK apps to kindle .. this one could be nice. Why? mainly tab support, dowloads support

10-11-2012, 11:14 AM	#13
baf Evangelist Posts: 405 Karma: 2330752 Join Date: May 2012 Device: kt	SkipStone I built Midori browser, but it would probably need a lot of hacking to make it work. Initial state is that the main window opens, but menus don't work and it is unstable. I had more luck with SkipStone. This one works quite well after minor adjustments. If I find time I will work more on it. Or maybe there are some other lightweight browsers that use webkitgtk? Edit: You will find more info in this thread. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by baf; 10-20-2012 at 03:17 AM. Reason: progress

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08-31-2012, 05:27 AM	#2
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Have you tried building any of those for the "kindle" yet? What where your results? Have you tried re-building the existing webkit based browser to include the features you wish? What where your results? What do you mean by 'start a discussion'? Is this a request that someone else do it for you?

08-31-2012, 08:14 AM	#3
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299993 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	Been working toward getting webkit compiled for the kindle. Currently have a few - required - build fails but it's rumbling along. What will be done with it when it is ready for service is another discussion. Update when there is one.

08-31-2012, 08:38 AM	#4
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	O.P. asked the question about downloads two weeks ago and got a link to this in reply: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=121008 So lets first find out if the O.P. tried it, and what the results where.

10-08-2012, 04:32 PM	#5
juice99 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: kindle	what about browser that will allow to connect via 3g to other sites than amazon/wikipedia ? or is there such already? i'm talking about kindle touch 3g and kindle paperwhite 3g

10-09-2012, 07:29 AM	#7
aditya3098 Guru Posts: 608 Karma: 1588610 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Scribe	Doesnt the kindle come with libwebkitgtk built in?

10-11-2012, 11:29 AM	#14
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299993 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	ooh... skipstone look nice. cheerlead If you want me to break an early version for you a bit feel free to post not sure of any other alternatives, but if Gooble splats something out I'll let you know.