PRS505 Firmware update: epub, DE, and reflow -- oh my! - Page 6

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by igorsk

I'm not sure why many americans think that's the only place where 24-hour time is used

I think it's most likely because most folks (I don't imagine this to be solely an "American" trait) don't really think outside the boxes of their experiences and lives. Unless something intrudes into their box, they don't really think about it.

I've been trying to teach myself to think in 24 hour time for several months now (in preparation for a trip overseas), and it's pretty rough going after 37 years of thinking in 12 hour time.

llasram · 07-24-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jerryleejr

Harry, At least in the U.S. if you say 14:00 to someone that hasnt been in or around the military they just look at you funny. Or you can see them trying to do the math in their head. Because normally it is just 2 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon.

I used to work for a mostly civilian agency in the US Department of Defense, and even there it'd be "The meeting is at 1400" in e-mail but "When's the meeting?" "Oh, two o'clock." in conversation.

-Marshall

astrodad · 07-24-2008, 11:55 AM

So now I have a choice to make before I take my Reader on vacation. To flash or not to flash? I would hate to lost the clock and my nice fonts while on vacation. Unless the flasher available to put in the hacks already works?

DDHarriman · 07-24-2008, 11:57 AM

Same in my country: all the writing and in formal speaking we use the 24 hour system, in coloquial, day to day conversation the 12 hour system (if we can call it that).

Taylor514ce · 07-24-2008, 12:11 PM

The problem goes beyond 12hr vs 24hr time. Americans can't even get our own time zones correct. Well, actually, West Coasters are more aware. When they want to schedule a meeting with me, they always either ask what zone I'm in or append "west coast time" to the hour. East Coasters do NOT. They set the meeting for 9:00 o'clock. I ask, my time, or yours? And then I get silence, or a "whaddya mean?".

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jplumey

So now I have a choice to make before I take my Reader on vacation. To flash or not to flash? I would hate to lost the clock and my nice fonts while on vacation. Unless the flasher available to put in the hacks already works?

I'd say it depends on when your vacation is. I'd give igorsk a day or two to get the 505 flasher up to release status, you know, before accusing him of gross negligence and stuff.

SurgE · 07-24-2008, 12:12 PM

well, from where i am(GMT+8), 24th jul is almost over lol.

astrodad · 07-24-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

I'd say it depends on when your vacation is. I'd give igorsk a day or two to get the 505 flasher up to release status, you know, before accusing him of gross negligence and stuff.

Well, I leave tomorrow morning. So perhaps I should wait. On the other hand, I do have tons of PDF's that I could try out while on vacation.

RWJ · 07-24-2008, 12:17 PM

OK, now I'm thinking the Sony is for me. The pdfs that I read are text only, so no diagrams to worry about. The big questions: (sorry, I'm a bit of a tech idiot) how can I tell if a pdf file I have is flowable? If I go to the Sony store near my house, which has a 505 in stock, how hard will it be for me to install this new firmware myself? I, too, am going on vacation tomorrow, and am torn between thinking I should be patient and buy it when it's preinstalled, and wanting it NOWNOWNOW and to play with it on my vacation.

grooks · 07-24-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jplumey

So now I have a choice to make before I take my Reader on vacation. To flash or not to flash? I would hate to lost the clock and my nice fonts while on vacation. Unless the flasher available to put in the hacks already works?

Maybe the new firmware will include the clock.

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jplumey

Well, I leave tomorrow morning. So perhaps I should wait. On the other hand, I do have tons of PDF's that I could try out while on vacation.

Your call, but I think I'd wait in that circumstance.

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RWJ

how can I tell if a pdf file I have is flowable?

My understanding is that the PDF file doesn't have to be officially reflowable, the new Reader firmware will reflow it regardless.

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Originally Posted by RWJ

... how hard will it be for me to install this new firmware myself?

The previous ones haven't been particularly hard, mostly a matter of installing the existing software (if you haven't already) and running the "check for updates" thing in the help menu, then following the instructions that come up. Remember they aimed the device itself at folks who aren't computer geniuses, so they're not going to ask for too much technosavvy on the updates.

astrodad · 07-24-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

Your call, but I think I'd wait in that circumstance.

I agree. I might go ahead and put the new firmware on and do the hacks next week sometime, if they are ready.

rmeister0 · 07-24-2008, 12:30 PM

There is an unanswered question here: does the new software support Windows Vista x64? The current software is 32-bit only.

A smattering of consumer machines are shipping with x64 now.

NatCh · 07-24-2008, 12:31 PM

I dunno, didn't think to ask.

I'd guess not, though, they've been pretty hostile to the idea before now. Not sure why, exactly.

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07-24-2008, 11:55 AM	#78
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	So now I have a choice to make before I take my Reader on vacation. To flash or not to flash? I would hate to lost the clock and my nice fonts while on vacation. Unless the flasher available to put in the hacks already works?

07-24-2008, 11:57 AM	#79
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Same in my country: all the writing and in formal speaking we use the 24 hour system, in coloquial, day to day conversation the 12 hour system (if we can call it that).

07-24-2008, 12:11 PM	#80
Taylor514ce Actively passive. Posts: 2,042 Karma: 478376 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Device: Sony PRS-505/LC	The problem goes beyond 12hr vs 24hr time. Americans can't even get our own time zones correct. Well, actually, West Coasters are more aware. When they want to schedule a meeting with me, they always either ask what zone I'm in or append "west coast time" to the hour. East Coasters do NOT. They set the meeting for 9:00 o'clock. I ask, my time, or yours? And then I get silence, or a "whaddya mean?".

07-24-2008, 12:12 PM	#82
SurgE Serial Bricker Posts: 65 Karma: 104 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Singapore Device: Sony PRS-505, Kindle 3 KSO	well, from where i am(GMT+8), 24th jul is almost over lol.

07-24-2008, 12:17 PM	#84
RWJ Zealot Posts: 120 Karma: 170 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: PRS-505	OK, now I'm thinking the Sony is for me. The pdfs that I read are text only, so no diagrams to worry about. The big questions: (sorry, I'm a bit of a tech idiot) how can I tell if a pdf file I have is flowable? If I go to the Sony store near my house, which has a 505 in stock, how hard will it be for me to install this new firmware myself? I, too, am going on vacation tomorrow, and am torn between thinking I should be patient and buy it when it's preinstalled, and wanting it NOWNOWNOW and to play with it on my vacation.

07-24-2008, 12:30 PM	#89
rmeister0 Addict Posts: 270 Karma: 298 Join Date: Mar 2005	There is an unanswered question here: does the new software support Windows Vista x64? The current software is 32-bit only. A smattering of consumer machines are shipping with x64 now.

07-24-2008, 12:31 PM	#90
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I dunno, didn't think to ask. I'd guess not, though, they've been pretty hostile to the idea before now. Not sure why, exactly.