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You actually can't roam on networks where there's no roaming agreement, but Amazon is definitely trying to reduce the roaming fees they pay.
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07-26-2012, 07:03 PM | #63 |
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Does this 50M apply to "Kindle 2" ? thanks
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If your Kindle 2 is CDMA, it does not apply, because your limit outside the US has always been 0M.
If your Kindle 2 has cell-phone based internet outside the US, it is GSM, and the limit applies. My question about how likely it is to get to 50M has not been answered. However, I am thinking there is no way anyone in my family, including our son who is going for a semester in Hong Kong next month, will hit this limit. 50M is the equivalent of fifteen Project Gutenberg copies of War and Peace, including HTML markup. So long as he keeps images off, how can he get to that? |
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The reason for capping becoming far more common in the US/Canada is that telecos didn't invest in infrastructure for a long time, so they need to work out ways to justify the caps, however it's based on capacity rather than cost. Elsewhere in the world caps are being removed. |
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To AZImmortal: This was discussed VERY often on Amazon Kindle forums and there WERE screen captures shown of what was said before, and at no time did it say "lifetime" although that word was used by some gadget news reviewers for reasons I never understood. For one thing, it's always been 'experimental' and then we've also had years during which people have pointed to the wording in the Terms of Service that stated they had the ability to charge fees later on 3G wireless. Quote:
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They didn't include the free 3G in the Kindle Touch almost surely because of direct access to the hyperlinks versus the tedious 5-way button navigation on the KK to multiple links that can badly affect that navigation -- and because the Kindle Touch has a faster processor. Both these advantages mean people would be more inclined to use the web browser on 3G quite a bit more on the touch model if it were included... |
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When you think about it if it was free 3G for the whole planet that would pretty costly in the long run. Remember that big state department order?
I have a feeling that those units don't have actual web browsing (outside of wiki, amazons site etc) http://paidcontent.org/2012/06/13/st...mazon-kindle-d |
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The linked article re State Dept is about Kindle Touch models only though and those don't have the free 3G experimental web browsing though they of course have the WiFi feature. The Kindle 3 or Kindle Keyboard model definitely has actual web browsing (very slow loading times unless it's pure text) and that includes in other countries when you're traveling. The Amazon UK website lists countries where 3G web browsing works outside the UK for UK residents, and the same countries apply for US residents. If you get the feature in your country of residence you get it when traveling in countries where Amazon has 3g contracts with carriers there. See http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/p/co...3g-access.html for details on this.. |
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Sorry. I missed the part about you not having a 3G Kindle. I guess I read it a bit too quickly. I can relate, however, as I had a Kindle Keyboard not too long ago, and upgraded to a Kobo Vox, as I was disappointed with the limited Kindle hardware choices here in Canada. We just got the Kindle Touch available here a few months ago, and there is no sign of the Kindle Fire coming north any time soon.
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If someone is interested how the exact message looks like - this is the screen I received from one of my blog readers.
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Although the 50MB limit is stated at Amazon ONLY on the page for those living outside the U.S., a blogger friend tells me that a knowledgeable Amazon person told him that this 50MB limit is supposed to kick in only when you leave your country when traveling for work or vacation, etc. It shouldn't come into play when you're in your home countr. That, though, is not necessarily true, as on the 3G web browsing issue, Amazon reps at all levels were not agreeing with one another on the brouhaha over whether or not the Kindle Touch was eligible for free 3G web browsing and they finally clarified it one day with an official Kindle Team announcement (which probably followed a lot of discusison, as Kindle owners had email clarifications from various Amazon reps paid to give answers, who said with certainty what their answers were but these contradicted other reps' views and alarmingly so. In your case, you MIGHT have bought the Kindle in the U.S. and then kept your 'residence' records as the U.S. If that's so, then you'd be eligible to get books that U.S. residents are offered. But the downside (if my blogger friend's contact at Amazon is correct) is that you'd be seen as 'traveling' or 'out of your home country' if you never changed your home country with Amazon. If so, then it's a choice between having access to more new books or coming up against that limit. That doesn't speak to Amazon's putting the limit statement ONLY in the non-US resident page though. If you're comfortable with letting us know either way, it'll help pin down when the new limit rule comes into play. Thanks! - Andrys http://kindleworld.blogspot.com |
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No, I don't mind sharing a bit of information. I bought my Kindle Keyboard 3G in January 2011, ordering from my home here in Canada, and it was shipped to me from the United States. The only time I've taken my Kindle abroad was in May 2011, on a short trip to the UK. (During that time I did indeed use it for a spot of 3G connectivity whenever I couldn't get local access to wireless.) Since then it's stayed with me here in Canada. I have never been resident in the U.S. since owning the Kindle, nor have I pretended to be. That said... I live very close to the American border. How close? Often, if I walk one block south of my home, my mobile phone chirps with an automated Telus text message welcoming me to the U.S.A. and reminding me of my roaming plan! (This is very common in my area of town, where our mobile devices get picked up by American 3G towers all the time.) I don't know if that's salient, probably not, but I thought it couldn't hurt to mention. Here's something interesting I discovered this afternoon! I was out on the balcony reading a previously-downloaded book sample on my Kindle. I hadn't bothered turning on our home network so, no wireless. I decided the sample was good enough to warrant buying the book at $10, and since Amazon IS supposed to provide continuous 3G connectivity to the Amazon Kindle store (and Wikipedia), even after the monthly 50MB limit has run out, I didn't bother running in and turning on our wireless -- I just pressed Buy and waited for the 3G connection to click in so that I could complete the transaction. Whereupon I got a message saying I couldn't connect, and would I like to join a Wi-Fi network so that I could do so? I tried 3 or 4 times to get through to the Amazon Kindle store -- turning the 'wireless' on and off each time in the hope it would connect via 3G -- and never managed to get through. So, erm, yeah. I'm wondering how many impulse buys Amazon may have lost because they've accidentally locked the 3G down too much? |
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