Google’s e-book deal could slow rise of Amazon Kindle in Europe - Page 5

andyh2000 · 06-14-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I can't be bothered to look it up, but I'm pretty sure it's in Europe, isn't it? They take part in the Eurovision Song Contest, at any rate

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So do Israel. Always puzzled me, that.

Andrew

tubemonkey · 06-14-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB1972

Famous, yes - but which continent is it in?

I say Asia, since the vast majority of the country lies there.

Billi · 06-14-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB1972

Famous, yes - but which continent is it in?

It's in Asia.

Billi · 06-14-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by andyh2000

So do Israel. Always puzzled me, that.

Andrew

Israel is Asia too, but for political reasons takes part in European sport competitions.

tubemonkey · 06-14-2012, 07:48 AM

Turkey?

Asia.

HarryT · 06-14-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Turkey?

Asia.

Turkey, like Russia, is in both Europe and Asia, although (like Russia) most of it is in Asia.

tubemonkey · 06-14-2012, 07:55 AM

But then again, Europe is a country

tubemonkey · 06-14-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Turkey, like Russia, is in both Europe and Asia, although (like Russia) most of it is in Asia.

Lots of straddlers.

We could give the European part to Greece and solve Turkey's straddler problem.

ProfCrash · 06-14-2012, 08:07 AM

Turkey and Russia are geographically on two continents. Russia tends to be more culturally European, with more of the population living in the European cities, Moscow and St. Petersburg. Turkey is culturally closer to the Middle East than Europe. I don't think many people would think of Turkey as European or Asian.

MikeB1972 · 06-14-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

Turkey and Russia are geographically on two continents. Russia tends to be more culturally European, with more of the population living in the European cities, Moscow and St. Petersburg. Turkey is culturally closer to the Middle East than Europe. I don't think many people would think of Turkey as European or Asian.

You know the Middle East is part of Asia, right?

theapatra · 06-14-2012, 08:54 AM

it will be interesting to see how this actually plays out and the effect it has. I knew there was an issue with Google and ebooks, but wasn't clear what it all was about. This post explains it a bit for me. Thanks.

ProfCrash · 06-14-2012, 10:33 AM

There are very real cultural differences between the Middle East and Asia even though they are on the same continent. So it is hard to say that Turkey is more Asian then European because Turkey is more culturally similar to the Middle East.

I don't know of too many folks who look at Iraq and go "They are Asian". No, they are Middle Eastern. Technically, they are on the Asian continent and if you are counting the number of continents that you have visited, you can say that. I visited Egypt a while back and get to check off the continent of Africa because of that trip but I would not think "Egypt is culturally closer to Africa than the Middle East."

We can break countries down by tectonic plates and the continents on those plates but that does not work well for the Asian contient because there are other cultural differences. Heck, Iran gets annoyed when you call them anything other then Persian. They are not Middle Eastern, they are Persian. Is India Asian? They have their own subcontient and while there are some similarities with Asian cultures there are some pretty serious differences as well. Toss in the Kashmir region where there are similarities to the Middle East and you have another country that is not easily defined.

I think this partially explains how people treat the UK. They are considered a part of Europe and are closer to Europe in terms of plate tectonics, culture, and history yet there is something different about the UK that seperates it somehow from Continental Europe. Kind of similar to how Hawaii is a state in the US but is very different then the rest of the US and I am not sure if Hawaii is considered a part of the North American Continent of the Asian continent. Alaska is in a similar position. It is a State in the US but it is different than the Continental US because of its geographic distance.

murraypaul · 06-14-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I think this partially explains how people treat the UK. They are considered a part of Europe and are closer to Europe in terms of plate tectonics, culture, and history yet there is something different about the UK that seperates it somehow from Continental Europe.

Culturally, the UK is far closer to its former colonies like Australia, New Zealand and Canada that to most of mainland Europe. Even the US would be more culturally familiar.

ProfCrash · 06-14-2012, 01:11 PM

Agreed but geographically they are tied to Europe. Which is why I think people are always a bit confused by the UK. It is also why there tends to be tension between those governments. France and Germany know that they have to be able to work with the UK but are not thrilled with how close the UK is with the US and other former colonies.

tubemonkey · 06-14-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

Agreed but geographically they are tied to Europe. Which is why I think people are always a bit confused by the UK. It is also why there tends to be tension between those governments. France and Germany know that they have to be able to work with the UK but are not thrilled with how close the UK is with the US and other former colonies.

Rather clannish, eh

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tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,851 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	Turkey? Asia.

06-14-2012, 07:55 AM	#67
tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,851 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	But then again, Europe is a country

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Turkey and Russia are geographically on two continents. Russia tends to be more culturally European, with more of the population living in the European cities, Moscow and St. Petersburg. Turkey is culturally closer to the Middle East than Europe. I don't think many people would think of Turkey as European or Asian.

06-14-2012, 08:54 AM	#71
theapatra author of Water Witch Posts: 30 Karma: 595832 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Canada Device: kindle	it will be interesting to see how this actually plays out and the effect it has. I knew there was an issue with Google and ebooks, but wasn't clear what it all was about. This post explains it a bit for me. Thanks.

06-14-2012, 10:33 AM	#72
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	There are very real cultural differences between the Middle East and Asia even though they are on the same continent. So it is hard to say that Turkey is more Asian then European because Turkey is more culturally similar to the Middle East. I don't know of too many folks who look at Iraq and go "They are Asian". No, they are Middle Eastern. Technically, they are on the Asian continent and if you are counting the number of continents that you have visited, you can say that. I visited Egypt a while back and get to check off the continent of Africa because of that trip but I would not think "Egypt is culturally closer to Africa than the Middle East." We can break countries down by tectonic plates and the continents on those plates but that does not work well for the Asian contient because there are other cultural differences. Heck, Iran gets annoyed when you call them anything other then Persian. They are not Middle Eastern, they are Persian. Is India Asian? They have their own subcontient and while there are some similarities with Asian cultures there are some pretty serious differences as well. Toss in the Kashmir region where there are similarities to the Middle East and you have another country that is not easily defined. I think this partially explains how people treat the UK. They are considered a part of Europe and are closer to Europe in terms of plate tectonics, culture, and history yet there is something different about the UK that seperates it somehow from Continental Europe. Kind of similar to how Hawaii is a state in the US but is very different then the rest of the US and I am not sure if Hawaii is considered a part of the North American Continent of the Asian continent. Alaska is in a similar position. It is a State in the US but it is different than the Continental US because of its geographic distance.

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ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Agreed but geographically they are tied to Europe. Which is why I think people are always a bit confused by the UK. It is also why there tends to be tension between those governments. France and Germany know that they have to be able to work with the UK but are not thrilled with how close the UK is with the US and other former colonies.