|  05-09-2012, 03:17 AM | #1 | 
| Member Retired            Posts: 3,308 Karma: 13024950 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Augsburg (near Munich), Germany Device: 26 Readers, 44 Tablets | 
				
				Return rate: Android vs. iOS
			 
			
			I've exchanged my Sony Tablet S (16GB to 32GB because of the limitations in the SD-card [=no App2SD]) in German Saturn Market 10 days ago. The sales guy gave me an interesting and (at least to me) surprising info: The return rate of Android tablets in Saturn Market in Germany "is enormous". He didn't have exact figures "but somewhere in the range of at least 30%". They accept those returns without questions asked, but typically they ask for kind of a re-stocking fee of ca. € 50. The most common reason for returning the tablets: "Customers expected a Windows like experience and are extremely frustrated when they can't do lots of professional tasks on these tablets. For some weeks now we very intensively inform every customer what to expect and what not". And: "Return rate of iPads is close to zero. We have 2 theories for that: a.) iPads are more expensive, so customers think more carefully about it and b.) Apple seems to have a more enthusiastic and loyal fanbase". To me, this all came as a huge surprise. First of all, I'm surprised about a significant return rate anyway. Everybody should know what to expect by now. Second of all, I didn't expect (actually never have thought about it) significant differences between iPad and Android. Maybe it's because the Android landscape is more diverse? Maybe a € 400 tablet is an impulse buy, whereas an € 700 iPad takes more consideration? Maybe Android is more interesting for the gadget freaks, willing to experiment and tune? Whereas iPad is more closed and limited, but on the other hand kind of "simple and clean"?... | 
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|  05-09-2012, 01:44 PM | #2 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+ | 
			
			iPad user expectations are more well known and more often are satisfied by the device and OS.  Also iOS (as used for both iPhone & iPad) interface is quite snappy, with VERY few hesitations or delays.  Android doesn't seem to put quite as much polish or priority into that facet of the user experience.
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|  05-09-2012, 01:51 PM | #3 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,388 Karma: 14190103 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin Device: Cybook, iRex, PB, Onyx | 
			
			I'm not in the least surprised. Have a look at the German ebay site and search for Tablet PCs. There are many that are sold after a very short time of ownership.
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|  05-09-2012, 01:54 PM | #4 | 
| Scholar            Posts: 1,012 Karma: 3999312 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kobo Libra H2O + iPad Air 4 | 
			
			Tablets are still fairly new, so people will probably want to try them out ("Large, touch sensitive screen?? WOW!").. Then they realize that they don't need them, and return/sell them. And cheaper tablets such as the androids, are easier bought then 499$+ iPads.
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|  05-09-2012, 02:02 PM | #5 | 
| Fanatic            Posts: 579 Karma: 3243761 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Fire HD8 | 
			
			sounds like android tablets are bought more on impulse than ipads, without doing much research into what they do the reason for returns "customers expected a windows like experience", i didnt think either of the devices offered this | 
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|  05-09-2012, 02:03 PM | #6 | 
| Addict            Posts: 305 Karma: 704492 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Device: Kindle 3, Kindle DX, Galaxy Tab 2 | 
			
			Apple has a bit of a cult following where a lot of the Regular Android users are Tech guys who grasp what the device is and what it can do. I would also think people who return an android device got it without really understanding what it is, while the apple people may have tried out a friends. So to hand a Technical device to Mr (or Mrs) Public, many are lost and since most wont take the time to learn it they just return it. I think some may get one to be hip and trendy only to realize they really have no use for it at all. Like the guy who never reads a book but gets a eReader because everyone else has one. | 
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|  05-09-2012, 02:22 PM | #7 | |
| hopeless n00b            Posts: 5,126 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9 | Quote: 
 With the iPad, it's well advertised and a lot more ubiquitous so people more or less know what to expect. The iOS interface hasn't really changed all that much since 2007 when the original iPhone was released. | |
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|  05-09-2012, 02:26 PM | #8 | 
| Enthusiast            Posts: 26 Karma: 3906 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Too close to Birmingham, AL Device: Kindle DX (1st gen), iPad, Toshiba Thrive, Acer Iconia A100 | 
			
			Another factor may be the variety of the Android tablets.  The iPad is an excellent piece of hardware, and iOS is tailored to work on it well (or vice versa).  With Android devices, you have high end hardware devices, but you also have the cheap hardware devices - some of which cannot exploit the full capabilities of the operating system.  That may set some buyers up for disappointment. Considering that factor, I'd be interested to see the number of Asus's returned verses the amount of Coby's. (or similar brands...) - On another note, I own a first generation iPad, a Toshiba Thrive and an Acer A100 (Android 3.2). All three are good devices. But even though the iPad is older it is still smoother and I have more apps available. Until I find an Android equivalent to DoodleCast Pro or ScreenChomp (or even ShowMe or EduCreations) I have to stick with the iPad. | 
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|  05-09-2012, 03:01 PM | #9 | 
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|  05-09-2012, 05:14 PM | #10 | |
| Addict            Posts: 305 Karma: 704492 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Device: Kindle 3, Kindle DX, Galaxy Tab 2 | Quote: 
 Actually I returned my Kindle fire for a "higher" Tablet (Galaxy Tab 2) So that could be another factor, since I'd say most Android users are a bit more on the technical side of things. | |
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|  05-10-2012, 12:29 AM | #11 | |
| Hungry Polar Bear            Posts: 34 Karma: 355562 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Device: Kindle Keyboard Wi-Fi + 3G | Quote: 
 Here's my take. For years, decades even, Apple has been "the alternative to windows." Even more so since their move to Unix FreeBSD Mac OS X. Thus, Apple is the "not windows" of the computing world. Well, with tablets, Apple is the industry leader. The alternative to Apple is Android. So I bet some people are thinking since Apple is "not windows" then Android must "windows". These people may or may not think Android is affiliated with Microsoft, but they clearly think it's more like windows than Apple's iOs. Prediction, Windows 8 is going to be a big hit in Germany. | |
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|  05-10-2012, 01:21 AM | #12 | |
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|  05-10-2012, 06:22 AM | #13 | 
| doofus            Posts: 2,555 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage | 
			
			Is the original poster comparing apples and apples?  I think the equivalent iPad and brand  name 10" android tablets cost about the same here in the US. I don't think it's the fanatic Mac fans that are buying the bulk of iPads, else they would sell about as many iPads as Macs, i.e., not a whole lot. | 
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|  05-10-2012, 09:24 AM | #14 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 106 Karma: 510000 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle | 
			
			I wonder if they're seeing partly the return of gift tablets.  People who got a tablet  for xmas and didn't want a tablet particularly.  Lots of Kindle Fires got returned to Amazon in January, I know.  They were probably the ones that went on sale in the 'refurbished KF for $139' sale.
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|  05-10-2012, 11:18 AM | #15 | |
| Addict            Posts: 305 Karma: 704492 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Device: Kindle 3, Kindle DX, Galaxy Tab 2 | Quote: 
 My wife has been watching me use mine........ I have a feeling I will soon have to buy her one   | |
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