Apple's War on Android

[Prestidigitweeze]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

That isn't what was said.

I think it's what was implied. And if not, then it doesn't matter because sweeping generalizations about every Apple customer in the world would be far too stupid to merit serious discussion. We're all slaves to marketing, and anyone who thinks they aren't is in a semiotic coma.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

I think it's what was implied. And if not, then it doesn't matter because sweeping generalizations about every Apple customer in the world would be far too stupid to merit serious discussion.

And yet certain posters continue to make them.

[Prestidigitweeze]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

And yet certain posters continue to make them.

Comedians focus on audience members who are fun and ignore the ones who are uninspiring. I'm just proposing we do the same.

[JD Gumby]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Also odd how Apple consumers are idiots who have been tricked by marketing, but the same doesn't seem to apply to Samsung and Kindle Fire owners.

Of course it does. Especially Fire owners.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Of course it does. Especially Fire owners.

no....

they very smart for not buying ipad. saved big bucks

[Wasgo]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

no....

they very smart for not buying ipad. saved big bucks

I grabbed a piece of paper and a pen from work. Didn't cost me anything. I can read magazines on it if I write them myself, and if I draw quickly enough, it's practically video. I'm very, very smart.

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Also odd how Apple consumers are idiots who have been tricked by marketing, but the same doesn't seem to apply to Samsung and Kindle Fire owners.
Still, I'm sure that will turn out to be Apple's fault too

Actually it is in a way. Due to Apple's success in selling device swithout expansion card (and thus increasing profits) Samsung and Amazon have followed. If the iPad had an expansion slot, then Samsung would have it, too.

But it looks like Samsung will have them again in the future. Their days of Apple aping are over and they have moved on. Same with mobile flash, this definitely is Apple's doing. I never play flash games, but flash video works just fine on my Android 2.2 phone and on my tablet with both OSs, in the hacked ICS and under WebOS. And there are plenty of websites were you either get low quality HMTL5 video or flash only. Some day, when all websites have made the switch, I won't care. But now I need flash and I greatly resent Apple for its anti Adobe smear campaign. Anyway, that ship has sailed.

[Greg Anos]

Different people, different world views. The big grumbles comes from the "winner-take-all" world of gadgets today, which interfere with the different needs. Brand X developes a dominate position, everybody developes for brand X. But if brand X doesn't do certain functionality that you want/need, you're left in the lurch over time.

People grumble about that. And they particularly grumble when they see what they want, but Brand X's profit decisions prevent them from "having it all". And it doesn't matter who Brand X is...

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by Wasgo

I grabbed a piece of paper and a pen from work. Didn't cost me anything. I can read magazines on it if I write them myself, and if I draw quickly enough, it's practically video. I'm very, very smart.

If you draw quickly enough you get a better refresh rate than e-ink, too.

[heySkippy]

I'll admit to being an Apple fan, have been for a long time, but of course they make mistakes and nothing anyone makes is ever perfect.

That said, they've had a remarkable streak of home runs this last decade. You'd have to be blind to not see that. No one expects it'll last forever but for those of us old enough to have struggled through the 90s, it's sweet.

I try not to gloat. That would be unbecoming.

[SeaKing]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Also odd how Apple consumers are idiots who have been tricked by marketing, but the same doesn't seem to apply to Samsung and Kindle Fire owners.
Still, I'm sure that will turn out to be Apple's fault too

Those kind of inferences are being too very harsh on people.
Everyone has a place in this world.

As a human being, I just don't condone such actions.
As a Samsung owner, it repulses me.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

I greatly resent Apple for its anti Adobe smear campaign.

all these companys have freedom to make own choice. Apple not force them to do a thing.

[yoho]

Originally Posted by VaporPunk

Which is the fastest growing segment in the world. For millions of people around the world, Smartphones and Tablets are their only "PC". The potential customer base for these devices is huge, the stakes are high, and it very much drives the behaviour of the MNC's involved. The Patent Wars are gonna make the headlines for a long time.

Apple is the BMW/Ferrari of the mobile market. High quality Nissan's are coming and its scared to death. There is little doubt that that their market share is going to decline every year.




Hmmm, free advertising (media exposure), advantageous positions for long term profit growth, licensing revenue, they're not stupid.

i do not think everyone is afford to have one BMW or Ferrari, but they can try to earn themselves a Nissan through hard working. statistically, high-end market share only takes up 20% of the whole market share, while the 80%
belongs to the middle class. anyone knows which is higher.

[VaporPunk]

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

Why do you assume that Apple users are any different?

Experience.

C'mon, not everyone (most even) who buys an Apple product belongs to the "Cult of Apple". But if I had a nickel for everytime I heard..."I only buy Apple products, they're just the best", well, I'd have a buck. But thats a lot more than I'd get for any other company.

Apple more than anybody else, offers a kind of "cradle to grave" (for lack of a better phrase) experience to its users. Hardware, software, product range, OS integration, etc...all Apple. And they are mostly good. And well marketed. And they look great. They've almost become a fashion accessory. And that's a deliberate marketing ploy. Well done, Apple.

Windows, Android, Linux users have a choice of hardware. Mac OS users don't. Samsung, Asus, Acer users have a choice of OS. Apple hardware users don't. Ergo, the other brands just don't generate the same kind of brand loyalty. An Android fanboi is not loyal to Samsung, just the OS. A Samsung fanboi is not loyal to windows, just the hardware. It's that simple, really. Apple has created a vastly loyal fan-base with nice-looking, quality products, that are priced at the higher end of the market. And they have a cohesive vision of how to serve that fan-base. Some of that fan-base are irritating fanbois who only consider Apple products when purchasing. They have a hard time admitting that Apple makes mistakes, if they even can. (That was the context of my quote, remember?) These annoy me and make me laugh. That was my entire point. The remaining Apple users, the vast majority of them, are not.

Sorry for the length of this post, but I am trying to make myself as clear as possible here.

[VaporPunk]

Originally Posted by murraypaul

Also odd how Apple consumers are idiots who have been tricked by marketing, but the same doesn't seem to apply to Samsung and Kindle Fire owners.
Still, I'm sure that will turn out to be Apple's fault too

See, now you're just being silly...

The KF costs $200. For that price, compromises must be made. Still, Amazon chose not to include it for the same reason as Apple, the walled garden thing. Shame on them.

Samsung + Apple are totally milking their customers for extra $.

Does anybody have any idea what it would cost Apple or Samsung to add a Micro SD card to their tablets? At mass production rates? I don't, but I'd be curious to find out...