Apple's War on Android

[hrosvit]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

There will always be specialty users and for them choose is good

I don't think wanting an SD card slot makes one a "specialty user". Without wanting to dive back into the debate over what is better, I think an SD card slot is a basic requirement of any device, that Apple has tried to convince people they don't really need. Much like Flash. I have seen lots of people claim on various forums that the lack of Flash in no way handicaps iDevices. But in the five months I have had my iPhone, I have encountered numerous websites that I cannot adequately experience, thanks to Apple's knowing what is best for me. That is the thing that drives me the craziest about Apple.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by afv011

We obviously disagree. I believe telling your customers that they are holding it wrong and only reluctantly do something about the problem after massive peer pressure (without coming clean and saying "sorry folks, we made a mistake, but will get right on it") is not "handling it extremely well".

The "holding it wrong" was an off the cuff remark by Jobs, and obviously not good PR.

Compare how Apple handled the antenna issue to how Asus handled their transformer GPS issue. Asus did not extend the return period, offer free cases, or offer any other compensation to people who purchased their tablet.

So, yeah, I think Apple did a good job with this issue, at least compared to anyone else.

It has taken 18 months for apple to settle. They could have solved this much faster and without leaving a bitter taste of "our way, or the highway".

This is really really silly.

First of all, it take two sides to settle a case. Do you really believe that the Class would have been willing to settle for what they finally settled for immediately? I don't believe that for a second.

Apple offered everyone a free bumper or case within a month of the problem being discovered. People who had already bought a bumper received $30 (for the bumper) *and* the choice of a free case.

The people who brought the class action suit are people who didn't accept the bumper or free case from Apple. They will receive either $15 or a free bumper - i.e., about what they could have received within a month from Apple. I'm almost 100% certain that the settlement took so long because they were holding out for much more.

[Talldog]

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

The people who brought the class action suit are people who didn't accept the bumper or free case from Apple. They will receive either $15 or a free bumper - i.e., about what they could have received within a month from Apple. I'm almost 100% certain that the settlement took so long because they were holding out for much more.

I'd bet that lawyers looking for a bigger payday had a lot to do with it.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

Dear Apple lovers, this antenna problem is such an obvious case. Can some among you, NEVER EVER admit that Apple made a mistake? I don't see your problem, why must Apple's record be 100% spotless and every blunder be vigorously defended and tried to be explained away ("it didn't really happen", "others did the same thing, but worse"). Even Apple is run by humans, don't they ever make mistakes?

I use an Android phone, but if someone asks me what I don't like about Android, I have plenty to say. And if we extend that to the company, Google, then I could talk all day.

I think that most Apple users will admit when Apple has a problem. I agree that antennagate was a real problem for a few people. But I also think that Apple handled the issue very well. And that the problem, while real, was also blown out of proportion. There is a lot of evidence for this last point, included the previously linked JD Power report (showing that consumer satisfaction with the iPhone 4 was the highest in the industry), as well as the fact that the phone broke sales records. And is still the number 1 or 2 bestselling handset.

And I think it is a problem if, in response to a misleading or wrong post about an Apple issue, anyone who responds is labeled as an "Apple lover."

Particularly so given the recent barrage of Apple critical posts by people who aren't particularly interested in a discussion of the topic, but are merely using the issue because they have some sort of beef with Apple or its users. (Who now comprise 51% of US households).

And while I understand why someone who owns a particular product might be a fan of the product, what I don't understand is why people who *don't* own the product have decided that they hate the product. Why waste your time on something you don't own and will never be required to own?

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by VaporPunk

Obviously not. They're Apple, dude. Apple. Its not enough that they make good, even great sometimes, products (if overpriced), they're just ferpect... (and I don't mean all Apple users, but some)



I have an android tab. Love it but...is it perfect? Hell no. Will I buy another Android tablet someday? Most likely, yes. Does it have to be an Asus? No. Would I consider an iPad? Yes, if the price is right. The only loyalty I have is to my wallet.

Why do you assume that Apple users are any different?

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by hrosvit

I don't think wanting an SD card slot makes one a "specialty user". Without wanting to dive back into the debate over what is better, I think an SD card slot is a basic requirement of any device, that Apple has tried to convince people they don't really need. Much like Flash.

Sales will tell

Mobile flash dead and is only on pcs now.

[calibrated]

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

Why do you assume that Apple users are any different?

Good question...

I'm currently an Apple user--iMac, iPhone, wife has a MacBook Air and I have a dead MacBook Pro (long story). But I've used, at various times, a Windows PC, Linux, an Android phone, and I currently have a Chromebook and a Kindle Fire, which is Android-based. I'm thinking of replacing my dead MBP with a Windows 8 tablet when they come out--I've played with an iPad extensively, but it doesn't do anything for me.

Bottom line is I use what works best for me--and what I like--regardless of label. Technology isn't religion, and there's no One True Way regardless of what fanboys of any company--Microsoft, Apple, or Google--may think.

[Prestidigitweeze]

It's impossible to walk by an Apple Store without thinking, "White power! And after that, brushed aluminum power!"

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Sales will tell

Mobile flash dead and is only on pcs now.

No, you also find it running on android.

[calibrated]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

White power!

After that, brushed aluminum power!

Next up: woodgrain!

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by calibrated

I currently have a Chromebook

Very iinteresting to me. How do you like that?

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

No, you also find it running on android.

i think ice cream last version. now legacy.

[calibrated]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

Very iinteresting to me. How do you like that?

It's OK, if you just want to go online a bit. It's a CR-48, one of the pilot laptops that Google gave away prior to the public introduction. It's been mostly serviceable enough, but it has connectivity issues with both WiFi and the Verizon 3G service. Most of the time it works, but sometimes it just refuses to. Kind of a big deal for something that requires you to be online, but since I got it for free, I can't complain too much.

If you want to know what it's like to use, just install the Chrome browser on the laptop of your choice. That's pretty much it.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by ScotiaBurrell

i think ice cream last version. now legacy.

So all versions of android so far run it.

[ScotiaBurrell]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

So all versions of android so far run it.

Yes. Why say so far?