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Old 03-21-2012, 08:05 AM   #121
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I have tried updating the Desktop today, and after four attempts, it has failed repeatedly. This is for my wife's use, as I returned my Kobo, after a few weeks, with so many issues, and got my money back. I now have a Sony PRS300 and a Sony PRS-T1 which are not tied into some dodgy site. I will see if it will download properly in a day or so. Most of my ebooks are out of copyright or Creative Commons. It is cheaper to buy modern books as hard copy than ebook, not to mention that you never actually 'own' DRM copies unless you strip it out. I'm not impressed.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:19 AM   #122
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I emailed kobo regarding the random page turns and pages turning back. They have advised on a soft reset. Not tried it yet. Will give it a go tonight
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #123
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So I guess I'm the only guy with fewer issues now than I did with the previous update. Much appreciated work, devs. I had no tapping issues till my last few weeks with .16, but they disappeared once .17 came around. Highlighting and note taking seems faster in this release, too.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:35 AM   #124
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To say that I am unimpressed with the latest firmware would be about right. Nothing new here. It may be that my KT is a bit more unresponsive than before. If that's the way to end the double tap problem what took so long? (btw, it still is a problem)

All in all (YAWN) not much to write home about.

Thank goodness for the plug-in. I really dislike the carousel.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:50 AM   #125
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You're not alone cyvros. I'm definitely having fewer issues with the new firmware but by the sounds of it we are the minority. And if you're like me and don't mind the carousel (which I keep as shortlist and use for my TBR list), you're in an even smaller minority by the sounds of things. I don't even mind this google analytics spectre. I lead an incredibly boring life and whoever in the end is seeing my browsing/reading/shopping data from my online activities is surely weeping in a corner somewhere when they realize a person can be so dull. Kobo is in the book selling business. I'd be shocked if I went to their site and there weren't "Try this book" or "Recommended for you" advertising. It'd be like going into a store and not seeing product displays. The fact that my past shopping history is used to determine what's relevant to me (although some of the recommended reads I receive are hilarious) is in my opinion less annoying than blanket advertising. Just my two cents.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #126
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a couple of bugs with pdf

- if i turn in landscape mode it turns the wrong way or should invert tap zones
- if i search for a word and then click on the x it still continues searching (or freezes for a while)
-swipe to change page works only with no zoom

edit: have to correct the first... the buttons are there but out of bounds when you set the zoom, so you have to tap & pan to see them

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Old 03-21-2012, 10:17 AM   #127
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So I guess I'm the only guy with fewer issues now than I did with the previous update.
My wife and I have not had a single significant issue with our Kobos since buying them last summer, so these forums often have me scratching my head about what we're doing (or not doing) to avoid all the problems I keep hearing about.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:20 AM   #128
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My wife and I have not had a single significant issue with our Kobos since buying them last summer, so these forums often have me scratching my head about what we're doing (or not doing) to avoid all the problems I keep hearing about.
Typically, only users with problems gravitate to this sort of thread. Myself, I haven't had any problems related to the .17 update (even though I did lose all the free books that came with the unit when _they_ were updated).

In .17, performance is a little snappier for me, and I have less 'double taps' than I used to have (even though they still happen, once in a while).

Mind you, .16 was very usable too. Just slower
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:41 PM   #129
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a couple of bugs with pdf

- if i turn in landscape mode it turns the wrong way or should invert tap zones
- if i search for a word and then click on the x it still continues searching (or freezes for a while)
-swipe to change page works only with no zoom

edit: have to correct the first... the buttons are there but out of bounds when you set the zoom, so you have to tap & pan to see them
i found that pdf now have notes/bookmarks

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Old 03-21-2012, 01:07 PM   #130
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Typically, only users with problems gravitate to this sort of thread. Myself, I haven't had any problems related to the .17 update (even though I did lose all the free books that came with the unit when _they_ were updated).

In .17, performance is a little snappier for me, and I have less 'double taps' than I used to have (even though they still happen, once in a while).

Mind you, .16 was very usable too. Just slower
Agreed. We have two kobos in the house and both have been working great. Perhaps the problems people are experiencing are more hardware related then firmware.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:44 PM   #131
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Agreed. We have two kobos in the house and both have been working great. Perhaps the problems people are experiencing are more hardware related then firmware.
I suspect a lot of people don't experience certain bugs simply because they don't happen to use a certain feature which contains a bug. For example, if you only read English, or never look words up with the definition/translate function, you'll never know that the kobo software fails to select words with diacritics properly.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:55 PM   #132
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I suspect a lot of people don't experience certain bugs simply because they don't happen to use a certain feature which contains a bug. For example, if you only read English, or never look words up with the definition/translate function, you'll never know that the kobo software fails to select words with diacritics properly.
A fair number of English books have words with diacritics, like attache and facade. At least when 'typeset' with the diacritics.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:01 PM   #133
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I have tried updating the Desktop today, and after four attempts, it has failed repeatedly. This is for my wife's use, as I returned my Kobo, after a few weeks, with so many issues, and got my money back. I now have a Sony PRS300 and a Sony PRS-T1 which are not tied into some dodgy site. I will see if it will download properly in a day or so. Most of my ebooks are out of copyright or Creative Commons. It is cheaper to buy modern books as hard copy than ebook, not to mention that you never actually 'own' DRM copies unless you strip it out. I'm not impressed.
I don't know mine wouldn't d/l either. I uninstalled and reinstalled it to finally get to work.

I loved my 1st gen. Kobo, and I've never had a problem with my KT [except the odd double page turn issue] until upgrades in the past couple of months.

How's the Sony working out for you?

Your comment about buying hard copy vs ebook, I TOTALLY agree. I don't understand the thinking behind that at all.

And for those who've had no trouble, I was in that group. Enjoy it!
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:10 PM   #134
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You're not alone cyvros. I'm definitely having fewer issues with the new firmware but by the sounds of it we are the minority. And if you're like me and don't mind the carousel (which I keep as shortlist and use for my TBR list), you're in an even smaller minority by the sounds of things.
Well, I'm in two minds on the carousel. I'm okay with it because I use the shortlist for all my unread books, and the carousel seems to organise them by 'first marked for shortlist', which is cool. That said, I'm not terribly impressed by the use of Analytics on the device itself (I don't lead that exciting a life, but I still value my privacy). On the web, I'm okay with it, because I have an extension which blocks things like Analytics (Ghostery, if anyone's interested).

Recommendations I'm fine with as well, though I guess that's mostly because I've been getting automatic book recommendations from websites since long before my first e-reader. Also, the recommendations system is apparently flawed (at least for me), because it doesn't really recommend me I'd want to read.

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And for those who've had no trouble, I was in that group. Enjoy it!
I'm more in the 'had no trouble, then had major trouble, then no trouble, then really minor trouble, and now no trouble' group.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:15 PM   #135
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I'm more in the 'had no trouble, then had major trouble, then no trouble, then really minor trouble, and now no trouble' group.

Hopefully I'll back in the 'no trouble group' one day soon!
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