Ballmer: In 10 years all media will be delivered digitally - Page 2

zelda_pinwheel · 06-07-2008, 09:38 PM

RickyMaveety · 06-07-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnageddon

RickyMaveety, just so you don't feel too alone, I want you to know that I really don't much give a rat's patootie who tracks you, your buying habits, or anything else about you.

See, you are not really in a minority all that small!

Now, see ... that attitude makes you my kind of people. Personally, I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the planet doesn't give a rat's patootie about me.

Donnageddon · 06-07-2008, 09:44 PM

Just as long as you are monitored 24X7.

RickyMaveety · 06-07-2008, 09:47 PM

That goes without saying.

tirsales · 06-08-2008, 06:43 AM

Hmm .. why would you ever leave your house without your reader? I mean - it is your smartphone, it holds your contacts, it reads your newspaper, listens to your music and it can brew&drink coffee! (Now, this again make me very glad, because I dont like coffee. And if I cant stop this device from brewing coffee, it can at least drink the stuff itself, relieving me from that straining coffee-drinking the previous generation of those devices throw onto you).

What I meant - networks will be ever present. You will - in all likelyhood - have a single device that plays (and stores) your music, has access to your emails, social networking, calender, etc - and it will have access to your newspaper. What would you want a paper version for? You wont leave house without this device - and either it will have a folding display, or a method of sharing content with a reader...
Perhaps not in ten years, but it will come. *sings Ready or not, here I come*

RWood · 06-08-2008, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

"There will be no newspapers, no magazines that are delivered in paper form. Everything gets delivered in an electronic form."

Does no one else think Ballmer's on drugs - again? Digitally-delivered words may be much more common in 10 years but this is like predicting we'll have flying cars in a few more years. It's just not practical for everyone to have a digital device to read content with. If I'm at the grocery store and want to buy a magazine and don't have my latest Sony Reader (or whatever) with me, how am I going to buy it? Do you think they won't have any for sale? If I don't have a PC (plenty of real people don't have their own and won't 10 years from now), how do I buy a book? Do you think everyone will have Kindles (or the equivalent)? I doubt it. If I buy gasoline and want to run in and buy a copy of the newspaper, do you think they won't have one for sale? Of course they will.

And what about (dare I ask?) DRM and the protection of intellectual property and the multiplicity of hardware devices and digital formats? Does anyone think those problems will somehow evaporate allowing for the great proliferation of digital words?

I think there will be plenty of old-fashioned books, magazines, and newspapers 10 years from now (unless we're all under water by then or caught up in some other crisis).

VR: Remember the "trusted platform" that Intel/MS and others have advanced is a platform that they feel can be trusted to allow you to buy their content and not be able to share it with others. Where they can turn off offending content and processes that they do not want you to see or run. Is it any wonder that many governments outside the US do not use Windows for their computers? What military defense (military is always for defensive purposes isn't it?) computer manager would feel secure running a Windows based system if they were facing the US? Think of the amount of code and processing power Vista uses just to keep the systems from being able to copy HD content

Donnageddon · 06-08-2008, 06:14 PM

Well, I can see a future of "print on demand". You need a paper newspaper? You go to a kiosk, and insert your card and the kiosk prints a fresh copy for you. Want a paper book? Bookstores will most likely print it on demand for you.

I do feel that the price point for digital readers of the quality (or better) of the Kindle or the Sony Reader will come down to a point that most people will have them, much like most people have computers (or access to them).

And we have heard that the publishing business do not yet have the processes in place to have completely digitalized final copies of their books at the ready, but that is bound to change.

Paperless society in 10 years? No, probably never, but it is going to get much closer, very soon.

b0rsuk · 06-09-2008, 10:47 AM

Selected predictions of Bill Gates:

Quote:

World Economic Forum, 2004: "Two years from now, spam will be solved."

Quote:

Foreword to the OS/2 Programmer's Guide, 1987: "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time."

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Comdex, 2001: "So next year a lot of people in the audience, I hope, will be taking their notes with those Tablet PCs."

zelda_pinwheel · 06-09-2008, 10:57 AM

right, and then what was it someone (

) said about not being able to imagine why anyone would ever need more than, what was it, 56 mega of RAM on their pc ?

delphidb96 · 06-09-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

right, and then what was it someone (

) said about not being able to imagine why anyone would ever need more than, what was it, 56 mega of RAM on their pc ?

Whuuuuuunnnnnhhhhh???

56MB? Don't you mean 8KB?!?

Derek

tirsales · 06-09-2008, 11:02 AM

It was more on the lines of 640KB

- at least IIRC, because for quite some time this was the max MS Doc could handle.

zelda_pinwheel · 06-09-2008, 11:03 AM

good heavens, was it actually 8kb he said ?? makes it all the more piquant doesn't it... not that it really makes much of a material difference...

EDIT just saw tirsales post... that sounds right, i couldn't remember the exact quantity. but STILL though...

pilotbob · 06-09-2008, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

right, and then what was it someone (

) said about not being able to imagine why anyone would ever need more than, what was it, 56 mega of RAM on their pc ?

640K... and supposedly Gates said that... but it is a myth... he never said it.

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1997/01/1484

BOb

zelda_pinwheel · 06-09-2008, 11:09 AM

well... be that as it may, i prefer to sing "lalala, no smoke without fire" about that particular rumor, because it amuses me so (and i really wouldn't put it past him to have actually said it, then denied it when it became painfully obvious how wrong it was).

oh, and : pfff, that's right, spoil all the fun being *accurate* and all that...

pilotbob · 06-09-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

oh, and : pfff, that's right, spoil all the fun being *accurate* and all that...

He... too bad there is no citation or video clip of it. Most of what Gates says in public is recorded... I'm sure if there was a record of this it would be all over the tubes.

BOb

06-09-2008, 10:57 AM	#24
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	right, and then what was it someone () said about not being able to imagine why anyone would ever need more than, what was it, 56 mega of RAM on their pc ?

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06-07-2008, 09:38 PM	#16
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?

06-07-2008, 09:44 PM	#18
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	Just as long as you are monitored 24X7.

06-07-2008, 09:47 PM	#19
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	That goes without saying.

06-08-2008, 06:43 AM	#20
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	Hmm .. why would you ever leave your house without your reader? I mean - it is your smartphone, it holds your contacts, it reads your newspaper, listens to your music and it can brew&drink coffee! (Now, this again make me very glad, because I dont like coffee. And if I cant stop this device from brewing coffee, it can at least drink the stuff itself, relieving me from that straining coffee-drinking the previous generation of those devices throw onto you). What I meant - networks will be ever present. You will - in all likelyhood - have a single device that plays (and stores) your music, has access to your emails, social networking, calender, etc - and it will have access to your newspaper. What would you want a paper version for? You wont leave house without this device - and either it will have a folding display, or a method of sharing content with a reader... Perhaps not in ten years, but it will come. sings Ready or not, here I come

06-08-2008, 06:14 PM	#22
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	Well, I can see a future of "print on demand". You need a paper newspaper? You go to a kiosk, and insert your card and the kiosk prints a fresh copy for you. Want a paper book? Bookstores will most likely print it on demand for you. I do feel that the price point for digital readers of the quality (or better) of the Kindle or the Sony Reader will come down to a point that most people will have them, much like most people have computers (or access to them). And we have heard that the publishing business do not yet have the processes in place to have completely digitalized final copies of their books at the ready, but that is bound to change. Paperless society in 10 years? No, probably never, but it is going to get much closer, very soon.

06-09-2008, 11:02 AM	#26
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	It was more on the lines of 640KB - at least IIRC, because for quite some time this was the max MS Doc could handle.

06-09-2008, 11:03 AM	#27
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	good heavens, was it actually 8kb he said ?? makes it all the more piquant doesn't it... not that it really makes much of a material difference... EDIT just saw tirsales post... that sounds right, i couldn't remember the exact quantity. but STILL though...

06-09-2008, 11:09 AM	#29
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	well... be that as it may, i prefer to sing "lalala, no smoke without fire" about that particular rumor, because it amuses me so (and i really wouldn't put it past him to have actually said it, then denied it when it became painfully obvious how wrong it was). oh, and : pfff, that's right, spoil all the fun being accurate and all that...