How long till the 11" screen? Hm...

violagirl · 01-12-2012, 04:17 AM

I have been waiting forever for an 8.5"x11" e-ink screen to read PDFs and I can't believe one's not out yet!

I got so excited about the Skiff Reader.. and then it flopped. I don't want to have to deal with zooming, or panning, or reflowing, I just want to see the whole PDF page at once! And I can't get a tablet because the whole reason I want an ereader is because LCD screens give me eyestrain and dull headaches. Since I can't read PDFs on my computer, I have to print them all out and I'm sick of killing trees and paying for ink!

Anyone else feel the same way and really want an 8.5"x11" e-reader to be released? I can't be the only one! How long do YOU guys think till one finally hits the market?

HarryT · 01-12-2012, 04:27 AM

Which do you want - an 11" screen, or an 8.5"x11" screen, which is 14"?

I don't think you'll see either in the foreseeable future - it's too big to easily carry around.

violagirl · 01-12-2012, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Which do you want - an 11" screen, or an 8.5"x11" screen, which is 14"?

I don't think you'll see either in the foreseeable future - it's too big to easily carry around.

A 14" screen I suppose. I guess I don't understand screen size--I thought the number was the larger of the two dimensions?

Well... does it have to be about carrying it around? I can't help but feel like it'd be extremely popular with academics who have to read tons and tons of academic articles via PDFs and just wanted to avoid all the eyestrain.

Maybe I'm just a weirdo and the only one who wants such a thing.

HarryT · 01-12-2012, 04:34 AM

No, the size of a screen is its diagonal size.

It's not normal to be physically unable to read a computer screen. Perhaps you need glasses? I'd suggest visiting an optician and having your eyes tested. Sounds as if there might be a problem.

mbovenka · 01-12-2012, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Which do you want - an 11" screen, or an 8.5"x11" screen, which is 14"?

I don't think you'll see either in the foreseeable future - it's too big to easily carry around.

It's more the probable price of them, I think, looking at what the current crop of 9.7" readers cost (and I'm saying that as a very happy Kindle DXG owner). People carry portfolios (which are US Letter/A4 size) around all the time.

My DXG isn't that much smaller than my A4 portfolio, when you take the Oberon cover into account. Lose the keyboard and minimize the bezel, and you're almost there.

Sweetpea · 01-12-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by violagirl

Well... does it have to be about carrying it around? I can't help but feel like it'd be extremely popular with academics who have to read tons and tons of academic articles via PDFs and just wanted to avoid all the eyestrain.

Maybe I'm just a weirdo and the only one who wants such a thing.

I'd say that the most academics would go for tablets, with colour screens. And that (still) rules out e-ink.

kennyc · 01-12-2012, 06:45 AM

Too Big...

kennyc · 01-12-2012, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by violagirl

A 14" screen I suppose. I guess I don't understand screen size--I thought the number was the larger of the two dimensions?

Well... does it have to be about carrying it around? I can't help but feel like it'd be extremely popular with academics who have to read tons and tons of academic articles via PDFs and just wanted to avoid all the eyestrain.

Maybe I'm just a weirdo and the only one who wants such a thing.

That's what ultrabooks are aiming at.....in part at least.

HansTWN · 01-12-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

I'd say that the most academics would go for tablets, with colour screens. And that (still) rules out e-ink.

That is because there are no options -- from what I read most would prefer e-ink. But obviously the powers that be have decided that this market niche is too small, so you can only take a chance on the outsiders (Pocketbook, Hanvon, Boox) or wait for Mirasol or color e-ink.

patrickt · 01-12-2012, 08:36 AM

Not me but I don't need .pdf files often. I would be inclined to get a laptop computer. An e-ink reader of that size would have to be quite rigid or flexing would destroy the screen in nothing flat.

Guns4Hire · 01-12-2012, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, the size of a screen is its diagonal size.

It's not normal to be physically unable to read a computer screen. Perhaps you need glasses? I'd suggest visiting an optician and having your eyes tested. Sounds as if there might be a problem.

I didn't see where she said she physically couldn't read a computer screen. Just that it gives her eye-strain and headaches which is pretty common. Though you could be right about her having her eyes tested.

Penforhire · 01-12-2012, 05:38 PM

Her eyes, lol. Unless the screen name is a red herring.

I suspect we'll never see much choice in larger E-ink e-readers. Once you get into that price range the do-it-all tablets/notebook PC's are more marketable going forward. There is room for a better display (Mirasol or ?) but dedicated e-readers are doomed, IMO.

wallcraft · 01-12-2012, 08:54 PM

Since PDFs typically have 0.5" margins, you only need 10" by 7.5", which is 12" diagonal.

The largest E Ink device in production is the Plastic Logic 100, with a 10.7" screen, see Mobile-Review (Russian). There was one in the US this week, see Visting with E-ink (Sony’s E-ink Plans, Hands On with the Plastic Logic 100, and more).

01-12-2012, 04:17 AM	#1
violagirl Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 50 Join Date: May 2011 Device: none	How long till the 11" screen? Hm... I have been waiting forever for an 8.5"x11" e-ink screen to read PDFs and I can't believe one's not out yet! I got so excited about the Skiff Reader.. and then it flopped. I don't want to have to deal with zooming, or panning, or reflowing, I just want to see the whole PDF page at once! And I can't get a tablet because the whole reason I want an ereader is because LCD screens give me eyestrain and dull headaches. Since I can't read PDFs on my computer, I have to print them all out and I'm sick of killing trees and paying for ink! Anyone else feel the same way and really want an 8.5"x11" e-reader to be released? I can't be the only one! How long do YOU guys think till one finally hits the market?

01-12-2012, 04:34 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, the size of a screen is its diagonal size. It's not normal to be physically unable to read a computer screen. Perhaps you need glasses? I'd suggest visiting an optician and having your eyes tested. Sounds as if there might be a problem. Last edited by HarryT; 01-12-2012 at 04:37 AM.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Which do you want - an 11" screen, or an 8.5"x11" screen, which is 14"? I don't think you'll see either in the foreseeable future - it's too big to easily carry around.

01-12-2012, 06:45 AM	#7
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Too Big...

01-12-2012, 08:36 AM	#10
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	Not me but I don't need .pdf files often. I would be inclined to get a laptop computer. An e-ink reader of that size would have to be quite rigid or flexing would destroy the screen in nothing flat.

01-12-2012, 05:38 PM	#12
Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	Her eyes, lol. Unless the screen name is a red herring. I suspect we'll never see much choice in larger E-ink e-readers. Once you get into that price range the do-it-all tablets/notebook PC's are more marketable going forward. There is room for a better display (Mirasol or ?) but dedicated e-readers are doomed, IMO.

01-12-2012, 08:54 PM	#13
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Since PDFs typically have 0.5" margins, you only need 10" by 7.5", which is 12" diagonal. The largest E Ink device in production is the Plastic Logic 100, with a 10.7" screen, see Mobile-Review (Russian). There was one in the US this week, see Visting with E-ink (Sony’s E-ink Plans, Hands On with the Plastic Logic 100, and more).