jetBook Color vs. Plastic Logic - Page 3

pendragginp · 12-27-2011, 06:01 AM

Really? See, my worry is that so far all of the color renditions are 'colored' - that is, paintings or drawings, not photographs or anything from real life. At least not that I've seen so far.

Ekaros · 12-27-2011, 07:31 AM

1600x1200 way too good, isn't that about 1 and some pages on normal screens? I want one some day, if it's reasonable for my budget...

Hominis_Nocturna · 12-27-2011, 11:23 AM

One user compared the Triton e-Ink display withe the Pearl of the Kindle and either the camera wasn't properly set or simply the blacks of the Triton were washed out.

Jack Tingle · 12-27-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hominis_Nocturna

One user compared the Triton e-Ink display withe the Pearl of the Kindle and either the camera wasn't properly set or simply the blacks of the Triton are washed out.

In the newspaper/magazine business, that's the difference between "black" and "three-color black". "Black" is done with black ink. "Three color black" is done with cyan, magenta, and yellow ink. It's more a muddy brownish-gray. Expensive presses have a 4-color process that includes black ink as well. Really expensive presses can use up to 6 (IIRC) colors to make really, really nice printing.

eInk is like printing, hence the washed out blacks on the jetBook Color.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

JSWolf · 12-27-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by humandroid

Second half of the video sold me!

The video shows this to a very slow device. And the resolution is only 800x600 at 9.7". Again, not good. They'd have been better without the color layer at 1600x1200. The resolution would then be even more detailed then the color images they showed in the video.

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Originally Posted by Ekaros

1600x1200 way too good, isn't that about 1 and some pages on normal screens? I want one some day, if it's reasonable for my budget...

The b&w layer under the color filter is 1600x1200. But once you add the color filter, the resolution becomes 800x600 as you then need multiple B&W pixels to make the color.

JSWolf · 12-27-2011, 07:26 PM

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wizwor · 12-27-2011, 09:40 PM

I hope this doesn't make it into US classrooms. eEducation should be software only with readers for common hardware. This would reduce cost and stave off obsolence.

Jack Tingle · 12-28-2011, 09:54 AM

Huh! My bad. Triton tries to be a 4 color surface, but uses RGBK instead of CMYK. WTF? I'm not sure how that would work--3 additive colors and one subtractive? I hope they did their homework.

Puzzledly,
Jack Tingle

Shaggy · 12-28-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jee

I would like to know the page refresh rate.

About an hour and a half.

Seriously though, refresh rate has been one of the big problems with color eInk for a long time.

ProDigit · 02-01-2012, 12:57 AM

It'd be the same as other e-ink devices, as it is the same technology. Probably 2fps at most, mainly the screen driver though, because some video's have shown a running DOOM game on an e-ink screen.
Instead of refreshing the screen, the driver actually refreshes the screen multiple times per second, though the individual pixel speed is still limited to 2fps (going from black to white or reverse).

But that does not mean that the whole screen should suffer from that lag. By addressing different rows and columns of pixels a time, it may be possible to get near fluid motion out of these screens!

12-27-2011, 11:23 AM	#33
Hominis_Nocturna Non Opus Dei Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: PL Device: Kobo Aura H20	One user compared the Triton e-Ink display withe the Pearl of the Kindle and either the camera wasn't properly set or simply the blacks of the Triton were washed out. Last edited by Hominis_Nocturna; 12-27-2011 at 05:13 PM.

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12-27-2011, 06:01 AM	#31
pendragginp Guru Posts: 985 Karma: 4567263 Join Date: May 2009 Location: The End Of The Earth Device: Several	Really? See, my worry is that so far all of the color renditions are 'colored' - that is, paintings or drawings, not photographs or anything from real life. At least not that I've seen so far.

12-27-2011, 07:31 AM	#32
Ekaros Illiterate newbie Posts: 661 Karma: 1702090 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Finland Device: Sony PRS-T1	1600x1200 way too good, isn't that about 1 and some pages on normal screens? I want one some day, if it's reasonable for my budget...

12-27-2011, 07:26 PM	#36
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,746 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	delete post

12-27-2011, 09:40 PM	#37
wizwor Wizard Posts: 1,068 Karma: 23867385 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kindle, fire	I hope this doesn't make it into US classrooms. eEducation should be software only with readers for common hardware. This would reduce cost and stave off obsolence.

12-28-2011, 09:54 AM	#38
Jack Tingle Punctuation Fetishist Posts: 557 Karma: 1070000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Bluest Commonwealth In East America Device: Kindle PW, Nexus 7 (2013), Galaxy S5 phone, Galaxy Tab 4 8.0	Huh! My bad. Triton tries to be a 4 color surface, but uses RGBK instead of CMYK. WTF? I'm not sure how that would work--3 additive colors and one subtractive? I hope they did their homework. Puzzledly, Jack Tingle

02-01-2012, 12:57 AM	#40
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	It'd be the same as other e-ink devices, as it is the same technology. Probably 2fps at most, mainly the screen driver though, because some video's have shown a running DOOM game on an e-ink screen. Instead of refreshing the screen, the driver actually refreshes the screen multiple times per second, though the individual pixel speed is still limited to 2fps (going from black to white or reverse). But that does not mean that the whole screen should suffer from that lag. By addressing different rows and columns of pixels a time, it may be possible to get near fluid motion out of these screens!