iPhone 4 Explodes Midflight on Australian Airline

[SeaKing]

Has anyone beside me noticed how hypersensitive Apple folks are.

Most when they have a product with a problem, complain a lot about it and tell stories about how they suffered. Apple people seem to need to find excuses or point fingers or be very quiet.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by Razi

Even more non-trivial fact: Galaxy Nexus has problems with suden diminishing of volume because of a bug in Android Ice Cream Sandwich. There is no mention of that on this forum although this was on the BBC News last week. Yes the voulume becomes silent without any user interferance. If it was an Apple product, this would have been splashed everywhere, specailly on Mobile Read Forum and would have been dubbed 'silentgate'. One battery exploded somewhere over the outback and it makes it here. Apparantly Nexus is Samsung's flagship smartphone running Google's latest OS:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15870020

You seem to think that people are picking on Apple more than Android, but this was in the article that you linked to as well, but I haven't seen people making a big deal of of it either:

The problem comes as Apple rushes to fix a bug in its new operating system iOS 5.

Users complain that iPhone batteries are running down too quickly.

Since both no volume and no battery would make a phone useless the two cases seem on the level, but exploding devices make for more interesting stories so I don't see why it would come as a surprise that it receives more attention.

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by SeaKing

Most when they have a product with a problem, complain a lot about it and tell stories about how they suffered. Apple people seem to need to find excuses or point fingers or be very quiet.

If I have a battery explode, I'll be sure to complain a lot and tell stories of how I've suffered.

[ScalyFreak]

Originally Posted by carpetmojo

That's 'cos it's a security problem, prob'ly - they might have to bow to government demands to check and test each individual battery on every electronic gizmo in anyone's luggage in hold or cabin..........

Nah, they'll just ban them from all flights. Like they did with liquids.

TSA security rules are dumb and ineffective.... empty posturing at best.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by SeaKing

Has anyone beside me noticed how hypersensitive Apple folks are.

Most when they have a product with a problem, complain a lot about it and tell stories about how they suffered. Apple people seem to need to find excuses or point fingers or be very quiet.

Actually I notice both behaviors from many different users of different products.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by ScalyFreak

Nah, they'll just ban them from all flights. Like they did with liquids.

No, they won't be banned. You'll just have to put it in a special plastic bag. For your own safety, of course.

[jersysman]

Originally Posted by kjk

Actually I notice both behaviors from many different users of different products.

+1


Some are more vigorous than others.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by SeaKing

Has anyone beside me noticed how hypersensitive Apple folks are.

Most when they have a product with a problem, complain a lot about it and tell stories about how they suffered. Apple people seem to need to find excuses or point fingers or be very quiet.

Maybe because "Apple people" are constantly bashed on MR? If you keep hitting a dog, it will start to shy away when it sees a newspaper.

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

Maybe because "Apple people" are constantly bashed on MR? If you keep hitting a dog, it will start to shy away when it sees a newspaper.

That is not really what is happening isn't it? There is some bashing both ways, but is usually very mild.

It is very simple. Turn everything around. Have Apple users talk about the problem with Apple's products and platforms, and Android users talk about their problems. I myself could go on all day. While Android users tend to be very open about it, from Apple users you barely hear anything. Not that there are no problems (we have several Apple devices at home, I know personally and could also list many, many), it is that such matters are not being seen as problems or are easily forgiven. Apple users have accepted the shortcomings, while Android users demand improvements.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

That is not really what is happening isn't it? There is some bashing both ways, but is usually very mild.

No, it is what's happening. Here is a random selection from the past 6 months or so.

Now, when (NOT if) Amazon releases a 10.1 version of the fire...then, I think, Apple will at least have to take notice, though iSheep are notorious for being oblivious to such revolutionary ideas as value for your dollar, performance for your dollar, and freedom to do what you like with your devices...so even the 10.1 Fire (or whatever it's called) won't endanger Apple any, thought it might take significant sales.

will kindlenistas be as rabid as ifanatics?

and calling the Android market a mess is typical iSheep rhetoric using outdate remarks.

android users can complain and debate each other, iOS users have the mentality of "Thank you sir may I have another".

or it could just mean that the folks in the country aren't status wh*res who need to buy an iphone to feel complete.

Can we have just one K4 thread by any chance, as we're beginning to sound hysterical and overreact like the iSheep waiting for the next iGimmick...

I thought I saw people genuflecting walking into an Apple Store

but noo they aren't iSheep

iSheep may like cool, I like functionality

I really do many of the apple fans are like brainwashed cult memebers

The issue isn't that people don't like Apple the company or Apple products - I don't have a Mac, for example, and my signature is not complimentary to Apple, as far as that goes. Discussion about products is a very good thing.

The issue is that people are insulting Apple *users,* specifically. I think that crosses a line and should be stopped. (And of course this applies to insults to all users).

It is very simple. Turn everything around. Have Apple users talk about the problem with Apple's products and platforms, and Android users talk about their problems. I myself could go on all day. While Android users tend to be very open about it, from Apple users you barely hear anything. Not that there are no problems (we have several Apple devices at home, I know personally and could also list many, many), it is that such matters are not being seen as problems or are easily forgiven. Apple users have accepted the shortcomings, while Android users demand improvements.

Talking about problems with devices is fine, as I mentioned above. It's insulting users that is bad. (And it hasn't been my experience that Apple users ignore problems - there are complaints on the Apple subforum right now, for example. And plenty of Apple users have complained about recent battery issues with i0S 5. All of that is pretty ancillary to MR, of course - I have an iPad, but I rarely read on it, since my Kindle is so much better for that in most cases. Which I suppose is a kind of complaint.).

[kjk]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

That is not really what is happening isn't it? There is some bashing both ways, but is usually very mild.

It is very simple. Turn everything around. Have Apple users talk about the problem with Apple's products and platforms, and Android users talk about their problems. I myself could go on all day.

Well, you *could*, but instead, you go on all day about Apple, especially in threads that aren't about Apple:
Here's a thread about the Samsung 10.1" Tab:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=11

Let us hope the device makers get the message and don't blindly follow the Almighty Steve's ideas (and he only excludes and SD slot because he doesn't want you to sideload) just to get good reviews from some Apple-centric bloggers.

Here is one about Adobe's stock:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...43&postcount=4

Looks like Steve Job finished his vendetta against Adobe from the grave. And mobile device users are the losers.
It is sad how we users of non Apple devices have to pay the price for so many of Apple's decisions (no exchangeable batteries, no ports, no expansion slots, to name just a few). Let us hope that this will change now that Steve's gone.

Here is one about how important Android is to Google:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...09&postcount=5

You got things mixed up, that was the rule for users of the fruity OS: "every problem is a feature, you are just doing it wrong!".

Here is one about Google buying Motorola:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...16&postcount=8

But what are you worried about --- aren't the fruity ones always first at everything?

And one about the HP Touchpad:

Though I am the first to admit that Apple invented the latest marketing methods, paying off bloggers, etc.

Just from a quick search

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

Maybe because "Apple people" are constantly bashed on MR? If you keep hitting a dog, it will start to shy away when it sees a newspaper.

If this were a good analogy, Apple users would shy away and not post on threads where a non-user mentions Apple. What we see here is the opposite.

Originally Posted by Andrew H.

The issue is that people are insulting Apple *users,* specifically. I think that crosses a line and should be stopped. (And of course this applies to insults to all users).

No, they don't. The ones who really hate Apple are insulting everyone who disagrees with them (i.e. doesn't express hatred towards Apple).

Originally Posted by hidari

RockdaMan, KJK, and Sil_liS: How much did your Apple Tattoo Cost?

On the other side we have the Apple users who think that anyone that is saying anything remotely negative about Apple must be a hater:

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

I've actually been referred to as an Apple-hater a few times on MR, but the interesting thing is that I've been a professional Apple user for most of my life.

As to the whole iSheep thing, maybe people would stop saying that about Apple users if whenever someone points out that Apple products are more expensive than devices with the same hardware they would stop resorting to the argument that many are buying Apple products, and many people can't be wrong.

Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Really? Why are their PC sales climbing?

A google search of "site:mobileread.com isheep" gives about 447 results, while "site:mobileread.com Apple-haters" gives about 575 results.

MobileRead Forums Statistics:
Threads: 145,031, Posts: 1,836,215, Members: 144,786
Statistically speaking, hate from either side is not expressed that often.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

If this were a good analogy, Apple users would shy away and not post on threads where a non-user mentions Apple. What we see here is the opposite.

Actually I know a few posters I met in the Apple forum left because of what they didn't feel welcome on MR. They didn't just shy away, they just went away.

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

As to the whole iSheep thing, maybe people would stop saying that about Apple users...

Trying to justify name calling now?
Maybe they should stop saying it about Apple users because insulting users on MR isn't appropriate, regardless.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by kjk

Trying to justify name calling now?
Maybe they should stop saying it about Apple users because insulting users on MR isn't appropriate, regardless.

And you've never done that?

Originally Posted by kjk

The only thing more pathetic than an Apple fan is an Apple hater

[ScalyFreak]

Whoa there. No need to get all personal here.

Lots of non-Apple users have difficulties understanding why those who love their Apple products love their Apple products. I'm one of them. My 18 months old laptop has the same hardware in it that today's MacBooks do, but had a lower price tag when it was purchased. Naturally, I have difficulties understanding why anyone in their right mind pays more money for weaker hardware, and when they can't give me good reason for it I point and laugh.

I also find it odd that these people are surprised that they're occasionally mocked for not being able to justify their purchase decision other than by telling me "it's an Apple,so it's better".

But the most odd thing of all is when people who are smart, well informed, and who bought an Apple product after thinking it through and coming to the conclusion that it's the best product for them, lose all their smarts and react like unthinking iSheep when someone asks them to recap their thoughts on why they bought a Mac. It's almost as if asking them to prove that they're not among the KoolAid chuggers turns them into one. Very odd.