No privicy with Kendel.

smikalow · 09-05-2011, 11:33 PM

Hi every body. My name is Sandy. I bought a Kendle II a year ago and am very disappointed in it. I was under the impression it was like my PC in that I could do any thing with it I wanted since I bought and paid for it. I first had a hint there was a problem when I read the information that came with the kindle. I have elected to not be tracked by Amazon and this causes a lot of problems. As a book reader it is in fact great. But it is the fact that I can't do a lot of the things that they advertises that really ticks me off. if you want on the web the only way you can get on is by registering with Amazon. there are many other things I would like to do like games. again you have to register and be tracked by Amazon.

I would recommend a different brand then Kendle if you want to be able to user your reader for anything other the just a reader and not have amazon tracking and recording what your doing and then turning the results over to the government.

Best Regards

Sandy

HarryT · 09-06-2011, 05:38 AM

What a load of rubbish. Amazon do not "record what you do and turn it over to the government".

thebestjeter · 09-06-2011, 05:50 AM

And it's not "Kendle", but Kindle. It's an offensive misspelling.

wiccan2 · 09-06-2011, 05:56 AM

I agree with HarryT Amazon do not record and turn over information to the government and I see no logical use for this data by the government. The most likely reason Amazon want you to register is because they are essentially giving you free Internet access at their cost. It's understandable that they would like to monitor this as they need to know if anyone is abusing the service as it would cost them money and have a detrimental effect on others using the service.

In any case it is possible to turn off the data logging/big brother features of the kindle and if you look around the forums you will find out how, if I remember correctly there is a link in the Comprehensive list of kindle hacks thread.

I think you should just calm down and not be so paranoid. The Kindle is a fantastic device to use and the Whispernet features are actually pretty useful.

Dr. Drib · 09-06-2011, 07:20 AM

Hmmm...perhaps the purchase of a book and a game would be a better solution to your problem.

I might add, as well, that doing a bit of research might have given you a clue to the KINDLE'S "limitations."

You should promptly de-register and return it.

Don

daveps · 09-06-2011, 07:41 AM

Send me it if you don't like it

killjoy · 09-06-2011, 08:09 AM

But on your PC your ISP can track what you do (unless you are going to work very hard at being covert) and they will pass that information to he government if formally requested.

DiapDealer · 09-06-2011, 08:24 AM

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No privicy with Kendel.

I find Kendel to be very discrete. He's a straight-up guy. Where'd you run into him?

Asawi · 09-06-2011, 09:38 AM

Personally I have several reasons to not choose the Kindle. Privacy being one of them.

BUT, having said that, I don't for one second think that Amazon actually bothers to "collect" my activities! And no government would be interested in it anyway...

And even IF they decided to keep track of me, come on, how much "interesting" activities can you do on an e-ink device?? Except of course the obvious: read books that might be considered bad/illegal or whatever.

Tin foil anyone?

Edit: Totally OT! Just got curious and had to look up "privicy" vs "privacy" and found quite a few places with "privicy policies". Is "privicy" a usable term as well, or is it just one of those wide-spread misconceptions? Pardon me for asking, I'm not a native English speaker, but always prepared to expand my language skill a little!

DiapDealer · 09-06-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Asawi

Edit: Totally OT! Just got curious and had to look up "privicy" vs "privacy" and found quite a few places with "privicy policies". Is "privicy" a usable term as well, or is it just one of those wide-spread misconceptions? Pardon me for asking, I'm not a native English speaker, but always prepared to expand my language skill a little!

I've no idea. But just looking at the two words, I would say the first one the way I hear some British people pronounce it (short 'i' as opposed to a long 'i'). I've never run into that spelling in real life, though.

ucfgrad93 · 09-06-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

You should promptly de-register and return it.

Agreed. Sorry OP, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. While the Kindle is a great device, it isn't for everyone. Just save yourself the aggravation and return it.

soulfuldog · 09-06-2011, 10:32 AM

Aww, I thought he'd just spelt the title wrong and this was going to be about Kendal mint cake.....

Edit - privicy isn't a usable term, except when people spell privacy wrong.

pidgeon92 · 09-06-2011, 01:16 PM

It's been a while since there's been a good fear mongering thread here.....

mr ploppy · 09-06-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What a load of rubbish. Amazon do not "record what you do and turn it over to the government".

If someone turned up with a court order they would have no choice but to hand that data over. I can't really see any government being interested in it though, unless you're some sort of gangster or terrorist type that they can't find any evidence on.

My main worry would be that Amazon gets hacked and all your reading habits end up on the internet for everyone to snigger at.

Ron. · 09-06-2011, 02:18 PM

never read Kendel without proper safeguards in place.

09-05-2011, 11:33 PM	#1
smikalow Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: Kindel II	No privicy with Kendel. Hi every body. My name is Sandy. I bought a Kendle II a year ago and am very disappointed in it. I was under the impression it was like my PC in that I could do any thing with it I wanted since I bought and paid for it. I first had a hint there was a problem when I read the information that came with the kindle. I have elected to not be tracked by Amazon and this causes a lot of problems. As a book reader it is in fact great. But it is the fact that I can't do a lot of the things that they advertises that really ticks me off. if you want on the web the only way you can get on is by registering with Amazon. there are many other things I would like to do like games. again you have to register and be tracked by Amazon. I would recommend a different brand then Kendle if you want to be able to user your reader for anything other the just a reader and not have amazon tracking and recording what your doing and then turning the results over to the government. Best Regards Sandy

09-06-2011, 09:38 AM	#9
Asawi Gadgetoholic Posts: 1,467 Karma: 3865860 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sweden Device: Kobo Libra2, Tolino Vision 6	Personally I have several reasons to not choose the Kindle. Privacy being one of them. BUT, having said that, I don't for one second think that Amazon actually bothers to "collect" my activities! And no government would be interested in it anyway... And even IF they decided to keep track of me, come on, how much "interesting" activities can you do on an e-ink device?? Except of course the obvious: read books that might be considered bad/illegal or whatever. Tin foil anyone? Edit: Totally OT! Just got curious and had to look up "privicy" vs "privacy" and found quite a few places with "privicy policies". Is "privicy" a usable term as well, or is it just one of those wide-spread misconceptions? Pardon me for asking, I'm not a native English speaker, but always prepared to expand my language skill a little! Last edited by Asawi; 09-06-2011 at 09:50 AM.

09-06-2011, 10:32 AM	#12
soulfuldog I ♥ Calibre Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2	Aww, I thought he'd just spelt the title wrong and this was going to be about Kendal mint cake..... Edit - privicy isn't a usable term, except when people spell privacy wrong. Last edited by soulfuldog; 09-06-2011 at 10:36 AM.

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09-06-2011, 05:38 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	What a load of rubbish. Amazon do not "record what you do and turn it over to the government".

09-06-2011, 05:50 AM	#3
thebestjeter Addict Posts: 208 Karma: 757546 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3 Wifi and Kindle DX Graphite	And it's not "Kendle", but Kindle. It's an offensive misspelling.

09-06-2011, 05:56 AM	#4
wiccan2 Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 10288 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Sussex Device: Kindle 3 - 3g, Samsung Galaxy Note	I agree with HarryT Amazon do not record and turn over information to the government and I see no logical use for this data by the government. The most likely reason Amazon want you to register is because they are essentially giving you free Internet access at their cost. It's understandable that they would like to monitor this as they need to know if anyone is abusing the service as it would cost them money and have a detrimental effect on others using the service. In any case it is possible to turn off the data logging/big brother features of the kindle and if you look around the forums you will find out how, if I remember correctly there is a link in the Comprehensive list of kindle hacks thread. I think you should just calm down and not be so paranoid. The Kindle is a fantastic device to use and the Whispernet features are actually pretty useful.

09-06-2011, 07:20 AM	#5
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,613 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	Hmmm...perhaps the purchase of a book and a game would be a better solution to your problem. I might add, as well, that doing a bit of research might have given you a clue to the KINDLE'S "limitations." You should promptly de-register and return it. Don

09-06-2011, 07:41 AM	#6
daveps Member Posts: 17 Karma: 494330 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Send me it if you don't like it

09-06-2011, 08:09 AM	#7
killjoy Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 12 Join Date: May 2011 Device: kindle	But on your PC your ISP can track what you do (unless you are going to work very hard at being covert) and they will pass that information to he government if formally requested.

09-06-2011, 01:16 PM	#13
pidgeon92 Wizard Posts: 3,144 Karma: 8426142 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Device: Kindle PW2, Kindle Voyage, Kindle DXG, Boox M90, Kobo Aura HD	It's been a while since there's been a good fear mongering thread here.....

09-06-2011, 02:18 PM	#15
Ron. Evangelist Posts: 448 Karma: 864744 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3, LookBook, Nook Simple Touch	never read Kendel without proper safeguards in place.