Amazon Tablet May Cost Hundreds Less Than iPad

[stonetools]

By your method of argumentation, TM, I could argue that a Honda civic gives 100 per cent of the experience of a BMW ..

Of course, you may be as happy watching a movie on a 7" screen as on a 10" screen but the average consumer would think different.
The average consumer also loves their iTunes content, their superior iOS gaming experience, the greater security of the iOS system, etc, etc, etc....

You can't just discount those advantages because you think them unimportant. I'm also not at all sure that they would be unable to detect that the NC had been rooted.

[Andrew H.]

As I see it, Amazon's biggest goal in selling a tablet is to create a platform through which they can sell their digital video products. Amazon seems to have focused quite a bit recently on its VOD services, and yet they can't be viewed on the iPad, which is pretty much completely dominating the consumer tablet space. This puts Amazon into a similar position to the one it occupied before the Kindle came out - it needed a product on which it could sell its books, and the only way to achieve this was to make its own tablet.

Of course Amazon would also like to sell books through its tablet, and apps, and it would like to make some money on the tablet itself. But I think the primary reason for having a tablet is to support Amazon's video services.

If my theory about video being the motive for the tablet, it tells us a few things about the tablet's likely design - it will have a good quality screen and decent graphics capability, for example. And it may have stereo speakers. It may also have a 10" screen, since larger is generally better for video.

But I have an additional theory - I think that the Amazon tablet will work something like a Roku...or Apple TV, even...to allow streaming directly to your television set. In other words, you will be able to stream movies to your device, directly, and you will be able to attach the AmTab to your TV and watch streaming content there, in 1080p. (You will probably also be able to download a movie directly to the tablet and watch that on your TV as well...although this advantage would really only come into its own if the tablet also had expandable media).

A roku itself is not very expensive, and streaming functionality comes built into a lot of other devices by default (TVs, BR players, etc.), so adding this functionality to a tablet would not add much additional expense. It would also give the tablet a functionality that the iPad does not have (with the appropriate adapter, the iPad can play a movie stored on the iPad itself, but it can't stream). The other thing I like about this functionality is that it supports Amazon's video goal 100%.

While I do think that the best size for a tablet with video functionality is 10", if Amazon's tablet will allow movies to be played on regular TVs, Amazon may decide that a smaller tablet is appropriate. A smaller tablet does have other advantages - it's cheaper, it's better as an e-reader, it's more portable,...and it doesn't compete as directly with the iPad.

In any event, that's my Amazon tablet theory.

[OtterBooks]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

4- my rooted NC is getting 100% of the iPad experience

Having used both (rooted), I think the NC is a good value for what you use it for, but wouldn't say it gets 100% of the iPad experience. The iPad provides a combo of hardware, content and interface that is just leagues above the NC.

I even think the iPad is too expensive, and would not personally pay that much for it. However, objectively speaking, nothing really compares.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Even if you get access to the GM, part of the iPad experience is access to the superior IOS ecosystem.
Finally, the bigger screen ( twice as big) just gives a better experience for games, video , and just about anything visual. Reading magazines are better: reading PDFs are better.

It's obvious you're clueless, but when you're a fanboy who needs facts.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Having used both (rooted), I think the NC is a good value for what you use it for, but wouldn't say it gets 100% of the iPad experience. The iPad provides a combo of hardware, content and interface that is just leagues above the NC.
I even think the iPad is too expensive, and would not personally pay that much for it. However, objectively speaking, nothing really compares.

If you compare nook color to the iPad 1. The hardware is on par. However the iPad 2 does have better hardware.

[OtterBooks]

Originally Posted by =X=

If you compare nook color to the iPad 1. The hardware is on par. However the iPad 2 does have better hardware.

That even surprises me, but I haven't compared them so I'll take your word for it.

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by =X=

If you compare nook color to the iPad 1.

Is that spec for spec, or a hands on usability testing you're doing?

[djulian]

This debate ("Oh, you don't have the iPad experience." "Oh yes I do.") assumes that the iPad experience is what people want.

I'm not interested in "enjoying" the iPad experience, actually. I tried it and hated it. I don't like iOS, I don't like Apple's hardware, I don't like iTunes or the iPod, I don't like Steve Jobs, I don't like their ad platform, I don't like their business model, I don't like Apple as a company--I don't care if a tablet can give me the "iPad experience." I am looking forward to the Amazon experience, or the Android experience, or some other OS. (Actually, I'd love the Windows 8 UI on a tablet when it's available.) I want a tablet that works for me the way I want it to work for me--let me get stuff done and get back to life.

In the local coffeehouses, when folks use their iPads, I like to watch them when they're done. They all look up and take out their earbuds and look around with a bewildered, just-waking-up expression, like they are confused by the world and they are wondering how much has happened while they've been isolated in the black hole that is the iPad experience. I don't want that.

But that's me.

[stonetools]

Originally Posted by =X=

It's obvious you're clueless, but when you're a fanboy who needs facts.

You apparently don't, since you don't cite any to explain why I am supposedly clueless. Shows that you are all about hurling baseless insults. Small minds like that sort of thing.

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by djulian

I don't like iOS, I don't like Apple's hardware, I don't like iTunes or the iPod, I don't like Steve Jobs, I don't like their ad platform, I don't like their business model, I don't like Apple as a company

...a bewildered, just-waking-up expression, like they are confused by the world and they are wondering how much has happened while they've been isolated in the black hole that is the iPad experience.[/QUOTE]


The first part is very interesting. The second part...well, what is it about iOS that this does to a person that Android, etc do not?

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[OtterBooks]

In the local coffeehouses, when folks use their iPads, I like to watch them when they're done. They all look up and take out their earbuds and look around with a bewildered, just-waking-up expression, like they are confused by the world and they are wondering how much has happened while they've been isolated in the black hole that is the iPad experience. I don't want that.

Agreed. Android tablet users look up from their version of a digital feedbag with wise, grounded self-realization. In fact, Android 2.3.4 automatically disconnects the user from its colossal world of apps and streaming entertainment when it senses that you've lost touch.

I want a tablet that works for me the way I want it to work for me--let me get stuff done and get back to life.

I feel the same way about my Xbox. Those PS3 people are a bunch of zombies.

Edit: ^sorry.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by RockdaMan

Is that spec for spec, or a hands on usability testing you're doing?

Spec for spec don't take my word on it look it up.

From experience I will say the speeds are comparable.

[djulian]

Apologies to all--I had no intention of being impolite!

The first part is very interesting. The second part...well, what is it about iOS that this does to a person that Android, etc do not?

I'm sure Android probably does the same thing--I just never see folks in the local coffeehouses on an Android tablet. I think my area's pretty iPad heavy.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by djulian

(Actually, I'd love the Windows 8 UI on a tablet when it's available.)

In the local coffeehouses, when folks use their iPads, I like to watch them when they're done. They all look up and take out their earbuds and look around with a bewildered, just-waking-up expression, like they are confused by the world and they are wondering how much has happened while they've been isolated in the black hole that is the iPad experience. I don't want that.

But that's me.

Lol, and the people with Windows 8 tablets will have a different experience?