Is OSX Lion buggy? - Page 5

EWGB · 08-17-2011, 01:14 PM

Here is the main problem: http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDI...e-215493.shtml

It is a serious issue for a new OS on the market. But that's the inevitable result of the hustler's business manner in the industry. Besides being a writer, I have been an IT consultant for the last 20 years. My personal golden rule is: Never buy or upgrade an OS (no mater for Mac or PC) after the release. Wait at least 6 months before doing so. Otherwise prepare for frustrations.

And here is some solution to the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4764

Good luck guys

DaleDe · 08-17-2011, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWGB

Here is the main problem: http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDI...e-215493.shtml

It is a serious issue for a new OS on the market. But that's the inevitable result of the hustler's business manner in the industry. Besides being a writer, I have been an IT consultant for the last 20 years. My personal golden rule is: Never buy or upgrade an OS (no mater for Mac or PC) after the release. Wait at least 6 months before doing so. Otherwise prepare for frustrations.

And here is some solution to the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4764

Good luck guys

And never depend on any software whose version number ends with a 0.

jocampo · 08-17-2011, 09:24 PM

@EWGB,

100% right about your waiting's advice.

By the way, there is an available patch already. I installed it on my Mac air already. One of the fixes, as per Apple, was the wifi issue I think.

unboggling · 08-17-2011, 10:41 PM

Thanks for the info, folks. With similar reasoning, I try to apply that to hardware too - I try to wait 6 months to a year (depending on what it is) before buying the new model of whatever. Difficult as that is sometimes, and I often break the rule because I know better but can't resist. Heh.

So any subsequent frustration is my own fault.

EWGB · 08-18-2011, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocampo

@EWGB,

100% right about your waiting's advice.

By the way, there is an available patch already. I installed it on my Mac air already. One of the fixes, as per Apple, was the wifi issue I think.

Yes I know - it become available around 6 am this morning on Mac software update. But as i point it out - this is the main issues that result in shutting down the computes (mostly IMac, and Mac Book Pro) showing so called "Blue screen of death" and after that it is impossible to restart the system without complete disconnect of A/C power. For the Mack Book Pro it means to disconnect the battery as well.

How many more issues are on the way with this OS system - only God knows. So far that reminds me of notorious Windows ME as far as such comparison between the two OS is relevant.

FlorenceArt · 08-18-2011, 05:05 AM

Uh? There's a blue screen of death on Mac? Last time I had a serious system crash (and that was several years ago as far as I can remember), it was a gray screen. Is that a new Lion feature?

unboggling · 08-18-2011, 05:17 AM

I haven't had any screens of death in Snow Leopard on recent macbookpro or older macbook. iMac, I didn't keep long because my cig smoke fogged the screen due to it's ventilation system sucking air up and through.

As far as I can remember, I haven't *ever* had a system crash in any Mac OS since I got a Mac in 1984. App crashes yes, but almost none with Apple apps. (Edit: not counting alpha or beta testing things.)

FlorenceArt · 08-18-2011, 06:01 AM

I had system crashes before OSX, more or less frequent depending on the version of the system (some were not very stable), but I don't remember what they looked like. I don't think there was an equivalent to the blue screen of death but there were cases where the system froze or became unusable and had to be restarted by brute force, sometimes by unplugging the power cord.

In early versions of OSX there was a gray screen of death with a message in several languages. There's a name for it but I have forgotten it (kernel failure or something), and as I mentioned I haven't seen it in several years I think.

unboggling · 08-18-2011, 07:31 AM

Huh. Well I went unMac to a HP PC for a few years, maybe I avoided it during that time, not bothering to upgrade the old Mac's OS.

FlorenceArt · 08-18-2011, 07:57 AM

Kernel panic! How could I forget such a cute name! That's the name of the gray screen of death.

unboggling · 08-18-2011, 09:18 AM

black, blue, gray or whatever, death is a hassle

I've often had long spinning-gear gray screens after I've messed up system files in one way or another in Leopard or Snow Leopard, until going in with disk utilities to fix permissions or whatever, and had to reinstall Snow Leopard once after I'd botched something up I couldn't fix that had slowed startups up considerably.

jocampo · 08-18-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWGB

So far that reminds me of notorious Windows ME as far as such comparison between the two OS is relevant.

That was one was of the WORST Os I've ever seen, followed by VISTA, which is another headache!

EWGB · 08-18-2011, 04:36 PM

Sure.. no doubts that any Mac OS is much better then Windows. So, any Mac is more reliable then PC and the maintenance is less and easier. Still, so far Mac OS Lion is hard to be called success. This is the only OS X with a such major problem.

FlorenceArt · 08-20-2011, 01:00 PM

The Lion USB stick is available on the Apple store, for 59€ (should be $59 in the US I suppose, too lazy to check). I think the price is a rip-off, but maybe I should have bought that after all instead of the Snow Leopard DVD. Oh well.

unboggling · 08-20-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

The Lion USB stick is available on the Apple store, for 59€ (should be $59 in the US I suppose, too lazy to check). I think the price is a rip-off, but maybe I should have bought that after all instead of the Snow Leopard DVD. Oh well.

$69 for Lion thumb at Apple store. 24 hr shipping.

$29 for Snow Leopard (seems like on dvd). 2 or 3 weeks shipping.

Nope, I think you saved yourself some big headaches.

08-17-2011, 01:14 PM	#61
EWGB Writer Posts: 12 Karma: 50968 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY - USA Device: Mac, PC and IPhone	Mac OSX Lion issues, and possible fix. Here is the main problem: http://news.softpedia.com/news/NVIDI...e-215493.shtml It is a serious issue for a new OS on the market. But that's the inevitable result of the hustler's business manner in the industry. Besides being a writer, I have been an IT consultant for the last 20 years. My personal golden rule is: Never buy or upgrade an OS (no mater for Mac or PC) after the release. Wait at least 6 months before doing so. Otherwise prepare for frustrations. And here is some solution to the problem: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4764 Good luck guys

08-17-2011, 10:41 PM	#64
unboggling Wizard Posts: 1,065 Karma: 858115 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kobo Clara, Kindle Paperwhite 10	Thanks for the info, folks. With similar reasoning, I try to apply that to hardware too - I try to wait 6 months to a year (depending on what it is) before buying the new model of whatever. Difficult as that is sometimes, and I often break the rule because I know better but can't resist. Heh. So any subsequent frustration is my own fault. Last edited by unboggling; 08-17-2011 at 10:52 PM.

08-18-2011, 05:17 AM	#67
unboggling Wizard Posts: 1,065 Karma: 858115 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kobo Clara, Kindle Paperwhite 10	I haven't had any screens of death in Snow Leopard on recent macbookpro or older macbook. iMac, I didn't keep long because my cig smoke fogged the screen due to it's ventilation system sucking air up and through. As far as I can remember, I haven't ever had a system crash in any Mac OS since I got a Mac in 1984. App crashes yes, but almost none with Apple apps. (Edit: not counting alpha or beta testing things.) Last edited by unboggling; 08-18-2011 at 05:38 AM.

08-18-2011, 07:31 AM	#69
unboggling Wizard Posts: 1,065 Karma: 858115 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kobo Clara, Kindle Paperwhite 10	Huh. Well I went unMac to a HP PC for a few years, maybe I avoided it during that time, not bothering to upgrade the old Mac's OS. Last edited by unboggling; 08-18-2011 at 07:47 AM.

08-18-2011, 09:18 AM	#71
unboggling Wizard Posts: 1,065 Karma: 858115 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kobo Clara, Kindle Paperwhite 10	black, blue, gray or whatever, death is a hassle I've often had long spinning-gear gray screens after I've messed up system files in one way or another in Leopard or Snow Leopard, until going in with disk utilities to fix permissions or whatever, and had to reinstall Snow Leopard once after I'd botched something up I couldn't fix that had slowed startups up considerably. Last edited by unboggling; 08-18-2011 at 09:33 AM.

08-17-2011, 09:24 PM	#63
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	@EWGB, 100% right about your waiting's advice. By the way, there is an available patch already. I installed it on my Mac air already. One of the fixes, as per Apple, was the wifi issue I think.

08-18-2011, 05:05 AM	#66
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Uh? There's a blue screen of death on Mac? Last time I had a serious system crash (and that was several years ago as far as I can remember), it was a gray screen. Is that a new Lion feature?

08-18-2011, 06:01 AM	#68
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	I had system crashes before OSX, more or less frequent depending on the version of the system (some were not very stable), but I don't remember what they looked like. I don't think there was an equivalent to the blue screen of death but there were cases where the system froze or became unusable and had to be restarted by brute force, sometimes by unplugging the power cord. In early versions of OSX there was a gray screen of death with a message in several languages. There's a name for it but I have forgotten it (kernel failure or something), and as I mentioned I haven't seen it in several years I think.

08-18-2011, 07:57 AM	#70
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Kernel panic! How could I forget such a cute name! That's the name of the gray screen of death.

08-18-2011, 04:36 PM	#73
EWGB Writer Posts: 12 Karma: 50968 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY - USA Device: Mac, PC and IPhone	Sure.. no doubts that any Mac OS is much better then Windows. So, any Mac is more reliable then PC and the maintenance is less and easier. Still, so far Mac OS Lion is hard to be called success. This is the only OS X with a such major problem.

08-20-2011, 01:00 PM	#74
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	The Lion USB stick is available on the Apple store, for 59€ (should be $59 in the US I suppose, too lazy to check). I think the price is a rip-off, but maybe I should have bought that after all instead of the Snow Leopard DVD. Oh well.

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