|  07-26-2011, 06:59 AM | #61 | 
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			Scholastic certainly put in a lot of effort in their design, even if they do think American kids are scared of philosophy. The result is a text that's more vibrant and alive than the Bloomsbury editions, and since these are books for children that's even more important. I don't doubt that Pottermore will be looking to be able to sell the books to Kindle customers as well - it's just too dominant to ignore. But I don't see why those who read the ebooks should be obliged to make do with an inferior version. The problem doesn't lie in the technology, it lies with an unwillingness (on the part of multiple actors) to make that technology function the way it should. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 07:59 AM | #62 | 
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			^ After reading the last few posts and finding myself somewhat surprised (I thought the only differences between the US and UK print editions would be minor spelling deviations - i.e. 'color' instead of 'colour'), I found this: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/books/differences.html I won't read this too thoroughly as I don't want to spoil the stories for myself (I've yet to read them all), but it does highlight that there were many changes to the books made by the US publisher, Scholastic. EDIT: Will there be specific editions for the US and UK markets for the eBooks? Or will Rowling take the opportunity to insist on keeping the original idiosyncrasies of the British texts intact this time around? P.S. The changes to correct the typographical errors and continuity errors seem reasonable enough (and I've no doubt such corrections was included in later print runs of the British editions, but the changes made for the sake of 'Americanism' (for want of a better word) look quite unnecessary: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/book...rences-ps.html (There are more links to changes in each book on the page I linked to near the beginning on my post.) Examples of changes made (according to the Lexicon): jelly > Jell-O; sellotape > scotch tape; football > soccer ball; barking > off his rocker. Last edited by Arrghus; 07-26-2011 at 09:09 AM. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 09:04 AM | #63 | 
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			Yes, Scholastic decided that inhabitants of the US would only be able to understand US English as opposed to the English of the originals and the author... started at the beginning with the title change of the first book... final result came to be a large number of changes...
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|  07-26-2011, 09:52 AM | #64 | 
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			I'm surprised they've actually made those changes. It would feel weird having characters from another country using your own local colloquialisms. If roles were reversed I'd rather have the original phrases left untouched and expect to lookup any that I wasn't familiar with.
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|  07-26-2011, 09:59 AM | #65 | 
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			The stories were written to be accessible.  It makes sense to keep them accessible when you publish them for a different audience.  Else you might as well say they should not have been translated into any other language.  Make those bloody foreigners learn the Queen's English, a wot?
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|  07-26-2011, 10:55 AM | #66 | ||
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 If you want to highlight a certain character one must look for other ways to do it. Text blocks with borders made from image could be one suggestion. So, maybe it is a blessing in disguise that mobi does not support font embedding. It gives more power to author with their written word and makes publishers less visible. There is some loss but the gain is much bigger. | ||
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|  07-26-2011, 01:10 PM | #67 | 
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			Another story indicating that Amazon will provide an ePub version in this article. However, it doesn't site any sources and appears to just be some more speculation. I think there is a good chance that Amazon will provide ePub support. Here is my reasoning-- Rowling is selling the DRM-free eBook on her website to cut out the middleman (e.g. distributors like Amazon, Apple, etc.). It has to be DRM-free because she doesn't have access to information needed to encrypt the file for each device that will buy the eBook. However, she has found a clever solution to providing a book that isn't encrypted-- add a watermark to the book that makes it clear who is the book's owner. This is not too difficult to accomplish with ePub, but I don't believe it can be done in the mobi format. Amazon won't make any money when people buy Rowlings' books through her website, so they really don't have much incentive to start supporting ePub. However, the lack of ePub support will be highlighted in a major way if the Kindle is the only major eReader that people can't use to read the Harry Potter books. Amazon does NOT want to see this pointed out in an ad for the iPad this Christmas. So... I think Amazon may start supporting DRM-free ePub. This allows them to make the Harry Potter books available, while at the same time still locking out the DRM'd ePub books of their competitors. Since Amazon has said they are working with Rowlings' people to make the books available, I think there is a good chance this is what they're doing. Amazon is also expected to be releasing a couple new devices soon, and once again the lack of ePub support will be a glaring deficiency-- especially if they can't read the Harry Potter books. Yet, I've been spectacularily wrong in the past. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 01:14 PM | #68 | |
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|  07-26-2011, 01:27 PM | #69 | |
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|  07-26-2011, 01:50 PM | #70 | |
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|  07-26-2011, 01:55 PM | #71 | 
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			Yeah, the idea that ePubs are somehow easier to watermark than mobi's just doesn't wash.
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|  07-26-2011, 03:22 PM | #72 | |
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 When I read "watermark" I envisioned something like a line of text at the bottom of each page with the user's name, credit card, or other identifier in it. But there is no reason you couldn't do something simpler like add a custom image to the start of each chapter, which would serve the same purpose. | |
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|  07-26-2011, 06:26 PM | #73 | ||||
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  Here's someone who does (guess what, he's an author): "I get this a lot from dedicated ebook readers: "I don't care about formatting and design in ebooks!" I think this is a peculiar kind of brain damage or mental scarring that mostly afflicts those who have read one too many OCR'd and badly proof-read scans of pirate copies on their Palm III with a 160x160 pixel black and white display. To reach a mass audience, ebooks are going to have to be comparably readable to a dead tree edition: sensible use of screen fonts, layout directives, and some eyeball candy are all part of the package." | ||||
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|  07-26-2011, 06:52 PM | #74 | 
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			I never noticed or cared about specific fonts in physical books, why would I care about them with ebooks? I only care about the authors words—and how they rattle around in my brain evoking all sorts of cool musings. The only time I care about layout is with verse... where line breaks often times need to be preserved to assist with meter and the like. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 08:48 PM | #75 | ||
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 What can be done to enlarge reading fluency, and therefor the reading comfort for the reader? Since this is what all this tweaks done to the pages you read over result in. The damn very last thing we need is to revert this development. Quote: 
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