MobileRead threads that never end - Page 2

pilotbob · 04-02-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

No, we don't want to give that impression. Given that, a FAQ or Wiki would indeed be a good idea. Maybe even a compilation of any comprehensive threads or thread entries on a given subject (if such a thing could be determined).

BTW: You are aware there IS a Wiki attached to this web site that has most of this information in it already? There are pages about each of the readers, ebook stores, conversion software, accessories and where to buy them, etc.

BOb

NatCh · 04-02-2008, 11:48 PM

I think he meant a FAQ or wiki entry.

Greg Anos · 04-03-2008, 04:34 AM

If we eliminated all those threads, what would be left on the site??? Seriously, this is a low volume news world. Only three major hardware players, with a few minor ones that may (or may not) become common. E-books for download (all praise to the contributors!), but they don't required much commentary, and the occasional firmware upgrade. Es todo. I guess the site needs eyeballs returning (most websites do), and the status quo is a good way to get them.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 04-03-2008, 06:55 AM

Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. TV is becoming more mindless every day. People get off watching "reality shows" based around finding new ways to cram bunch of people together and get them to fight. Game shows give them vicarious thrills. Maybe that's what this site should be doing, to increase popularity.

Maybe what we need is more of these irate shouting-match threads! I can jump back into the piracy threads, and go for my Harlan Ellison merit badge trying to tick off as many people as possible whilst simultaneously providing evidence that I really am God. Others can get really creative with their emoticons and &#@!*$%#&^@!! characters. And maybe someone can come up with a new e-book format for us all to whine "e-Babel" about!

It'll be a blast... the newbies will eat it up!

tompe · 04-03-2008, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. TV is becoming more mindless every day.

Actually the best TV becomes better and better. For example it seems like enough people pay for HBO fro them to make quality television. That inspite of these quality shows being spread on the internet a lot.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 04-03-2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

Actually the best TV becomes better and better. For example it seems like enough people pay for HBO fro them to make quality television. That inspite of these quality shows being spread on the internet a lot.

The less-rigid restrictions on pay-cable like HBO probably helps that a lot... it lets them add the sex, language and violence that audiences ask for, and it allows writers to write real drama without having to compromise their scripts to the moral standards of broadcast stations.

That's why more and more cable stations are relaxing their use of broadcast TV standards, to give us programs like Nip-Tuck, The Riches and Dirt (still with plenty of disclaimers to send the kids to bed). Trying to capture the crowd that demands more verisimilitude in their series.

But overall, I'd still say these programs are far-outnumbered, and the gap is widening.

DaleDe · 04-03-2008, 10:50 AM

I do believe it is worth going over stuff for a new user even if it has been said before. Some people never hear anything until they need to know. And then they need it to be packaged exactly as an answer to their question. It is a fact of life.

However, having said that, I have come to the realization recently that the wiki needs an FAQ section and I will probably add one soon as a starter for more participation. Hopefully everyone will spend a little time looking at the wiki and be able to refer folks to topics covered when appropriate. The wiki is getting looked at much more than in the past so I am hopeful it is helping people. At the beginning of this year we had 200 pages and now all of those pages have more than 200 accesses and some pages have many thousands of accesses.

Dale

JSWolf · 04-03-2008, 11:35 AM

And I also feel that the FAQ should be a sticky in ever section of MobilRead as well.

NatCh · 04-03-2008, 11:42 AM

Or maybe in the links "bar" at the very top of each page?

JSWolf · 04-03-2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

Or maybe in the links "bar" at the very top of each page?

That might work also.

kovidgoyal · 04-03-2008, 03:24 PM

Actually simply having the search feature return wiki matches at the top of the list may be a big help, though I don't know how many newbies actually use search.

zelda_pinwheel · 04-07-2008, 12:13 PM

i thought this was the new thread that never ends ? it seems to have calmed down quite a bit... i thought i would revive it...

so, what's everybody doing ? weather nice ? it snowed here this morning, or so i heard, since i was asleep at the time and by the time i got up it had melted... so frustrating : i've been hoping for snow all winter and saw nary a flake, and then when i had given up all hope, suddenly it sneaks up behind me (and then runs away before i can turn around). even sneakier given that on friday, it was around 15° !! i was outside with only my spring jacket, no hat or gloves, and i was still too hot !!! and then 2 days later it snows. i'm so confused.

actually i freely admit i'm using this as a diversion tactic in an attempt to keep my pledge (see below)... i swear, some of the stuff people write really scares me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Why don't we all take a voluntary pledge to never read a DRM or piracy thread? (If you read it, you will be compelled to post.So don't read it!)

take the pledge !

pilotbob · 04-07-2008, 12:15 PM

Ok,

I am going to add this topic/thread to the list of threads that never end:

o Do digital books (ebooks) need margins?
Yes, this "discussion" seems to go on and on in many threads and forums.

BOb

zelda_pinwheel · 04-07-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Ok,

I am going to add this topic/thread to the list of threads that never end:

o Do digital books (ebooks) need margins?
Yes, this "discussion" seems to go on and on in many threads and forums.

BOb

heh... well, i'm guilty of that one, including not 30 seconds ago.

i can't help it, it's a hasard of the job i guess...

at least it's not as incendiary as the drm / pirate / copyright infringement debate.

Donnageddon · 04-07-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

it was around 15° !!

Fahrenheit, Centigrade, or Kelvin?

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04-02-2008, 11:48 PM	#17
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I think he meant a FAQ or wiki entry.

04-03-2008, 04:34 AM	#18
Greg Anos Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,546 Karma: 37057604 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Pocketbook	If we eliminated all those threads, what would be left on the site??? Seriously, this is a low volume news world. Only three major hardware players, with a few minor ones that may (or may not) become common. E-books for download (all praise to the contributors!), but they don't required much commentary, and the occasional firmware upgrade. Es todo. I guess the site needs eyeballs returning (most websites do), and the status quo is a good way to get them.

04-03-2008, 06:55 AM	#19
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. TV is becoming more mindless every day. People get off watching "reality shows" based around finding new ways to cram bunch of people together and get them to fight. Game shows give them vicarious thrills. Maybe that's what this site should be doing, to increase popularity. Maybe what we need is more of these irate shouting-match threads! I can jump back into the piracy threads, and go for my Harlan Ellison merit badge trying to tick off as many people as possible whilst simultaneously providing evidence that I really am God. Others can get really creative with their emoticons and &#@!*$%#&^@!! characters. And maybe someone can come up with a new e-book format for us all to whine "e-Babel" about! It'll be a blast... the newbies will eat it up!

04-03-2008, 10:50 AM	#22
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	I do believe it is worth going over stuff for a new user even if it has been said before. Some people never hear anything until they need to know. And then they need it to be packaged exactly as an answer to their question. It is a fact of life. However, having said that, I have come to the realization recently that the wiki needs an FAQ section and I will probably add one soon as a starter for more participation. Hopefully everyone will spend a little time looking at the wiki and be able to refer folks to topics covered when appropriate. The wiki is getting looked at much more than in the past so I am hopeful it is helping people. At the beginning of this year we had 200 pages and now all of those pages have more than 200 accesses and some pages have many thousands of accesses. Dale

04-03-2008, 11:35 AM	#23
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	And I also feel that the FAQ should be a sticky in ever section of MobilRead as well.

04-03-2008, 11:42 AM	#24
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Or maybe in the links "bar" at the very top of each page?

04-03-2008, 03:24 PM	#26
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Actually simply having the search feature return wiki matches at the top of the list may be a big help, though I don't know how many newbies actually use search.

04-07-2008, 12:15 PM	#28
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Ok, I am going to add this topic/thread to the list of threads that never end: o Do digital books (ebooks) need margins? Yes, this "discussion" seems to go on and on in many threads and forums. BOb