|  07-08-2011, 03:16 PM | #16 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2 | |
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|  07-09-2011, 01:53 AM | #17 | |
| SF/F book blogger            Posts: 270 Karma: 502030 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Vancouver, Canada Device: Kindle 3 | Quote: 
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|  07-09-2011, 07:00 AM | #18 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | 
			
			I just looked at a random selection of my Kindle and Nook books... all have DRM. For some reason I thought that was not the case. Ah well.
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|  07-09-2011, 09:27 AM | #19 | 
| (he/him/his)            Posts: 12,322 Karma: 80074820 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC Device: Oasis (Gen3),Paperwhite (Gen10), Voyage, Paperwhite(orig), iPad Air M3 | 
			
			Most books bought from either source have DRM. Removing the DRM liberates the book and allows you to back it up to protect your investment. And also allows you to convert the format to match your reader of choice.
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|  07-09-2011, 03:08 PM | #20 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,717 Karma: 3790058 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650 | 
			
			I mostly read library books on my reader. I read them and delete them. Because of this, I tend to think of my ereader books in general as transient. Many times I have had to stop myself from deleting a book I own after I finished it. And really, I probably wouldn't mind much if I did delete. I strip the DRM from my ebooks and I guess I could give them all to my daughter some day, but really I don't think of them in the same way that I think of my pbooks, which are a collection to be proud of. The problem is, my "collection" is now fixed in time since I have stopped buying pbooks almost entirely. If I read an ebook that really, truly blew me away, maybe I would want to buy a handsome hardcover of it. But so far it hasn't happened. eP | 
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|  07-09-2011, 05:25 PM | #21 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | Quote: 
 Yea my reader of choice is my Nook Color which of course can read all formats via Kindle App, Nook App, and FBReader. But I would like to get them all in to EPUB since that seems like the most wide spread for future proofing... | |
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|  07-09-2011, 06:17 PM | #22 | 
| Zealot   Posts: 101 Karma: 170 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Voyage | 
			
			I bought my eReader for the free books. I have around 400 ebooks already(bought my kindle in November), most of which are free. If I come upon a good author from my free books, I then look to see if my library has any other books from that author. If not then I investigate the paperback price versus the ebook price. If the price difference is negligible, I buy the paperback because I will actually own the book and be able to lend it out to family and friends. I guess what I'm saying is I didn't really buy an eReader to switch over to only ebooks, I bought it to get the free stuff, lol. I'm a cheapskate and between all the free books I'm downloading, and all the books I'm checking out at the library, I have no fear of ever running out of reading material.
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|  07-09-2011, 06:49 PM | #23 | 
| Banned            Posts: 242 Karma: 51054 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belleville, IL Device: Kindle-3 | 
			
			I see that as being a big problem in the distant future with libraries and new releases. At this point, there are many new releases that are digital only, and libraries don't yet have a good way of obtaining those. So some day, libraries could end up being a place you go to only to look at old books and periodicals. I'm guessing they will always be around though if for no other reason than to store old newspapers on microfilm. It would be very difficult to scan & OCR all the collected newspapers from the history of the world. I can see them possibly remaining on microfilm forever.
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|  07-09-2011, 06:57 PM | #24 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire | 
			
			while i love ebooks as well, I still have a preference for pbooks    | 
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|  07-09-2011, 07:52 PM | #25 | 
| Karma Kameleon            Posts: 2,976 Karma: 26738313 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: iPad Mini, iPhone X, Kindle Fire Tab HD 8, Walmart Onn | 
			
			There is no such thing as a used digital file.   Since you can easily give the library a copy of your ebbok, and still keep your copy of the file and put the file on the web where the entire world can copy for free -- you can see why digital files will never carry the concept of ownership the way physical goods can Lee | 
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|  07-09-2011, 08:27 PM | #26 | 
| i'm getting there.            Posts: 179 Karma: 488150 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Device: Sony prs-600, MOTOROLA PHOTON & Toshiba Thrive | 
			
			@Leebase How does one do this my local library stated it was not a choice? | 
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|  07-09-2011, 09:22 PM | #27 | 
| Karma Kameleon            Posts: 2,976 Karma: 26738313 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: iPad Mini, iPhone X, Kindle Fire Tab HD 8, Walmart Onn | |
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|  07-09-2011, 09:41 PM | #28 | 
| i'm getting there.            Posts: 179 Karma: 488150 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Device: Sony prs-600, MOTOROLA PHOTON & Toshiba Thrive | 
			
			Shoot I got all excited, I'm in a small town.   That would have been great.
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|  07-10-2011, 01:12 PM | #29 | 
| Guru            Posts: 774 Karma: 1211741 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oregon Device: EB1150, iPhone, Cool-er Purple, Pocketbook 360, Kindle Fire | 
				
				DRM Free
			 
			
			Look for smaller publishers, they tend to release stuff DRM free.  Amy | 
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|  07-10-2011, 06:22 PM | #30 | 
| Banned            Posts: 1,687 Karma: 4368191 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oregon Device: Kindle3 | 
			
			Libraries are a state of mind. Become your own.
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