|  06-23-2011, 09:52 PM | #46 | |
| Addict            Posts: 256 Karma: 144599 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Boox Nova 2 | Quote: 
 Why would you bother? The problem with DRM, imo, is when it prevents you from using a book the way you want to which usually means you're limted to certain devices. I don't think a watermark prevents anything does it? | |
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|  06-23-2011, 09:55 PM | #47 | 
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			A Watermark does the same thing that DRM does. It treats me like I am a criminal. That is why I am against the watermark.
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|  06-23-2011, 10:09 PM | #48 | 
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			I thought the watermark indicated who the legal owner is?  You feel that is treating you like a criminal?  All I care about is that I can use the book any way I want on any device I want.  If they want to stamp it "property of John" I really don't care.
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|  06-23-2011, 10:25 PM | #49 | |
| Chasing Butterflies            Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries. | Quote: 
  I think after that many books, movies, theme parks, etc. of a series, I'd be sick of it, too. No matter how much it started as a labor of love, you probably hit a saturation point eventually. I actually kind of feel sorry for her, in a way -- she's kind of got classic "top of the world" syndrome, not unlike astronauts. When you've hit a peak like that, where do you go, and how do you deal with all the high expectations people have for you? In a way, I think it would be hard.  They say that Emma Watson is going through something similar -- I saw some article awhile back about how she wanted to be treated normally, but everyone knows her as Hermione Granger. Seems like it'd be a little lonely.  Not that I don't volunteer to get super rich and famous on my writing so I can report back and confirm/deny whether it's tough or not.   | |
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|  06-23-2011, 10:29 PM | #50 | 
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			I am sad for her that she didn't see the light with ebooks sooner.  There is a part of the internet that has filled the void where she could have been profiting sooner.  This would be a great opportunity to study the cause/effect of the black market against a product that was not available.
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|  06-23-2011, 10:32 PM | #51 | |
| Chasing Butterflies            Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries. | Quote: 
 It's also disappointing that without the store buying option, all these HP books are going to be side-loads and therefore likely not sync'able for notes, last page read, etc. Heck, I know a lot of Kindle users who LOVE their "see how many people highlighted this passage" features and groovy stuff like that. I'm kind of hoping that after the Pottermore initial release, we'll see the Big 4 stores trickle into the HP good graces. | |
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|  06-24-2011, 12:25 AM | #52 | 
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|  06-24-2011, 12:41 AM | #53 | 
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|  06-24-2011, 12:49 AM | #54 | 
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			No, it benefits you. It's a label saying "this is Jon's book". Should anyone else get hold of it, the watermark is proof that the book is your property, not theirs. It's like tagging your property so it can be identified if it's stolen.
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|  06-24-2011, 12:49 AM | #55 | 
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			As much as I love my Nooks, I've started getting interested in the newest line of Sonys too.  If there were Potter-themed Sony readers available (especially if they came pre-loaded with the books), I'd very strongly consider diversifying.
		 Last edited by Nahgem; 06-24-2011 at 12:50 AM. Reason: added quote | 
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|  06-24-2011, 01:47 AM | #56 | 
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			We'll have to see.  I like to reformat my books so I can turn them into PDF's.  Don't like the epub reader on my Sony nor on my BeBook Mini.  And my JE100 can't even read epub so I use mobi on that.
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|  06-24-2011, 01:49 AM | #57 | 
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|  06-24-2011, 04:34 AM | #58 | |
| Evangelist            Posts: 405 Karma: 479729 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2 | Quote: 
 I would have thought the intended purpose of watermarks is to let the copyright holder know that it was "John Smith" who uploaded to darknet. | |
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|  06-24-2011, 04:39 AM | #59 | 
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			You lose your eBook reader. Someone else finds it and claims that it's theirs. If the books on the reader are watermarked, it's evidence as to who the legal owner of them is. Like a serial number on a physical device.
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|  06-24-2011, 04:56 AM | #60 | |
| Evangelist            Posts: 405 Karma: 479729 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2 | Quote: 
 But wait... wouldn't the registered serial number of the ereader itself be evidence of legal ownership? I still say that watermarks are intended to help identify people illegally distributing and pirating ebooks (although I'll acquiesce to the argument that a side benefit may be that it can prove ownership). Last edited by stickybuns; 06-24-2011 at 04:59 AM. | |
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