JK Rowling Announcement - Page 14

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

I suspect this. There have been murmurs of epub support on the Kindle.

But haven't a LOT of those been fueled by the confusion that Amazon accepts epubs from authors and does the conversion to mobi themselves?

I'd be so happy if Amazon decided to support epub, but it would just seem very out of character for them to give up the ghost on the epub issue when they've fought it for so long.

And if they were going to support epub, seems like the library thing would have been the time to announce it.

Then Amazon wouldn't have to do this partnership with Overdrive silliness.

ilovejedd · 06-23-2011, 11:25 AM

Anyone know where we can send Ms. Rowling fanmail? While it is disappointing not to have had Harry Potter ebooks for a long time, I'd like to applaud her decision to release DRM-free ebook versions now that it's finally being released in electronic form. I sincerely hope this will set a precedent for other titles.

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:26 AM

To cope with the possibility of so-called 'piracy' the ebooks will feature a digital watermark that will identify who purchased the book. This will allow authorities to track down who shared an ebook with the rest of the world, and those users could be faced with lawsuits for copyright infringement.

Wild Prediction Time. I predict that the first person to be prosecuted under this will turn out to have been someone whose computer/account was hacked. Looking forward to seeing a nice granny with no firewalls and a password of 12345 thrown to the lions.

*sigh* When will they learn that watermarks can be removed, books can be bought/stolen under fake accounts, and that pirates are not automatically stupid?

EowynCarter · 06-23-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elemenoP

What source said they were partnering with Overdrive?

Here is another article that says they will be DRM-free, but with a digital watermark to track the purchaser:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-potter-ebooks

That is new information that I haven't seen anywhere else, but I've never heard of "The Inquirer" (But I have heard of the "National Enquirer"....)

eP

I don't want watermark to spoil my books. Now what

Hellmark · 06-23-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

I suspect this. There have been murmurs of epub support on the Kindle.

According to the Inquirer article, they'll be DRM free, so can be converted. Maybe Amazon will add support to convert DRM free ePub through their conversion service.

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CHILDREN'S BOOK AUTHOR J K Rowling has launched the Pottermore online reading experience, which will invite fans online, and will sell DRM-free ebooks of the series for the first time.

Read more: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...#ixzz1Q759D5Dx

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

I don't want watermark to spoil my books. Now what

Presumably a "digital watermark" would be invisible to the user. Some piece of code embedded into the epub.

And, I don't doubt, the ability to remove it will exist within days of the books being available. So it's an expensive re-invention of a wheel that never works and never will. *wall banger*

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

According to the Inquirer article, they'll be DRM free, so can be converted. Maybe Amazon will add support to convert DRM free ePub through their conversion service.

I look forward to seeing how that "digital watermark" will hold up through the conversion process.

I suspect the development team doesn't realize there ARE other formats.

ilovejedd · 06-23-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

Presumably a "digital watermark" would be invisible to the user. Some piece of code embedded into the epub.

This exactly.

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

This exactly.

10 to 1, it'll be the buyer's credit card number. Always a good thing to embed in data that will be streamed over unsecured WiFi networks and 3G.

DiapDealer · 06-23-2011, 11:33 AM

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I don't want watermark to spoil my books. Now what

If it's an epub and it's not encrypted... then any "digital watermark" would have to be part of the metadata, text, or hidden in an image somewhere. In short, if it bothers you... unzip it and remove it.

EowynCarter · 06-23-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

I look forward to seeing how that "digital watermark" will hold up through the conversion process.

I suspect the development team doesn't realize there ARE other formats.

Or to sigil and a regexp

As a principle i don't like watermarks. I'm not a goddamn thief !

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

If it's an epub and it's not encrypted... then any "digital watermark" would have to be part of the metadata, text, or hidden in an image somewhere. In short, if it bothers you... unzip it and remove it.

We'll just search for the bit that says:

THIS BOOK BELONGS TO Ana Mardoll SO HANDS OFF!

Only replace "Ana Mardoll" with your name. Or, more likely, your credit card number.

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Or to sigil and a regexp

As a principle i don't like watermarks. I'm not a goddamn thief !

Yeah, it's always a nice thing to convey in a press release:

We're pretty sure our fans intend to rob us.

News flash, guys, the people who wanted HP illegally? HAVE ALREADY GOT IT.

ALSO: Cue "legality of removing watermarks" discussion in 3...2...1...

ilovejedd · 06-23-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

If it's an epub and it's not encrypted... then any "digital watermark" would have to be part of the metadata, text, or hidden in an image somewhere. In short, if it bothers you... unzip it and remove it.

True. If it's encrypted and then embedded in an image, though, it might be tricky to remove unless you just remove the image altogether. Oh well, who cares. So long as I don't see it, I don't care. It's not like I'll be sharing my purchased ebooks all over the intarwebs.

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovejedd

True. If it's encrypted and then embedded in an image, though, it might be tricky to remove unless you just remove the image altogether. Oh well, who cares. So long as I don't see it, I don't care. It's not like I'll be sharing my purchased ebooks all over the intarwebs.

Seems like you could at the very least replace it with an exact sized image that is blank.

You'd just save a 348 px by 653 px blank image as HPWM.jpg or whatever and zip it all back up.

For me, it's the principle of the thing. If I lose my Sony and someone extracts my books and distributes them online, I don't want the FBI knocking at my door because Rowling couldn't be bothered to use regular DRM or -- gasp -- none at all.

Watermarks don't trace pirates. They trace victims whose accounts were hacked or devices were stolen.

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ilovejedd hopeless n00b Posts: 5,126 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9	Anyone know where we can send Ms. Rowling fanmail? While it is disappointing not to have had Harry Potter ebooks for a long time, I'd like to applaud her decision to release DRM-free ebook versions now that it's finally being released in electronic form. I sincerely hope this will set a precedent for other titles.

06-23-2011, 11:26 AM	#198
anamardoll Chasing Butterflies Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries.	To cope with the possibility of so-called 'piracy' the ebooks will feature a digital watermark that will identify who purchased the book. This will allow authorities to track down who shared an ebook with the rest of the world, and those users could be faced with lawsuits for copyright infringement. Wild Prediction Time. I predict that the first person to be prosecuted under this will turn out to have been someone whose computer/account was hacked. Looking forward to seeing a nice granny with no firewalls and a password of 12345 thrown to the lions. sigh When will they learn that watermarks can be removed, books can be bought/stolen under fake accounts, and that pirates are not automatically stupid?